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EPISODE 7 TRANSCRIPT
Title: Human Design Fear Gates 11 & 4
0:00:00.3 Lauri Wakefield: Welcome. Thanks for joining us today. I’m Lauri.
0:00:04.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Hi, and welcome back everyone. I’m Leslee.
0:00:07.9 Lauri Wakefield: Today, we’re gonna continue talking about the fear gates of the Ajna Center. Before we begin, I’d like to give a brief overview of how fear is experienced through the Ajna Center for those who are just joining us today.
The Ajna is located directly below the Head Center on the body graph. Its function is to help you process, conceptualize, organize and store information. When you’re not following your strategy and authority or not living in alignment with your true nature, the fears from the Ajna are experienced as mental anxiety.
In this episode, we’ll be talking about the fears associated with Gate 11 and Gate 4. Leslee, are you ready to begin our discussion with Gate 11?
0:00:46.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Sure. So, Gate 11 is called Peace, the Gate of Ideas. When it is defined with its harmonic Gate 56, referred to as the Wanderer or Gate of Stimulation, it is also called the Storyteller. The Channel of Curiosity is created when the 11 and the 56 come together.
This is part of the Sensing Circuit and it is our first abstract fear gate of the Ajna that we are covering. So, the abstract process is about the past, and it looks at the past as an experience. Its perspective is like looking in the rearview mirror, and the ideas created are coming from inspiration of information from the past. So this begins, actually, in the 47th Gate, which allows us… Allows one to have a sense of things. So, the 11th Gate can develop a conceptual idea to get people to see the picture.
So the Storyteller of the 56 gate is determined to get people to see the picture of that story. And Gate 11 is also connected to the left eye, and the left eye does not really clearly see in the now. It happens over time. So, Gate 11’s fear is emptiness and the anxiety trait is overstimulation.
0:02:04.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Gate 11 is about bringing ideas to others to stimulate them. So remember, Gate 11 is part of the Collective Circuitry which theme is about sharing. So, this energy reflects on the past and fears they will have nothing to share – no ideas or a way to create the sense of hope and desire for what might be better. It is important to understand that the abstract mental process operates in a deep harmony with the emotional wave and its process also.
0:02:30.8 Leslee Wegleitner: So, the Abstract Stream moves through the emotional system starting with Gate 41 (see transcript below for explanation) and moving all the way through Gate 35 to the throat. And this is known as the Stream of Being Human. It is all about life experience. So, the channel 11-56 and 64-47, which is an abstract channel that connects the Head to the Ajna are deeply connected to this emotional, experiential human way. Which brings us back to Gate 11 and its deep connection to wanting to express its ideas. Remember, these are abstract ideas. They will not be logical, and they carry the reflection of either hopelessness or hope. So, the experience in one’s life will determine that reflection; and the fear is about not having the ideas that can bring hope into that experience.
0:03:23.8 Leslee Wegleitner: To not be overwhelmed by fears and self-anxiety, I want to remind you once again how important it is to live out your type and your authority. The fear and anxiety are not here to overwhelm but to really enrich our lives by its teachings.
So, I have a dear friend that has this channel 11-56, and her Gate 11 is in her Unconscious Moon and Gate 56 is in the Unconscious Uranus. It’s really fascinating ’cause she speaks a lot about inner peace and she’s always seeking it, right. But what I find interesting is when we’re having conversations, and if she’s having something significant happening in her life, she always has this inner peace quality. Her body is just always… Feels like it’s in the state of peace. And so I just find that really interesting because I don’t know so much that she’s aware of it, being it’s unconscious; but it’s very noticeable to me.
So, Lauri, do you have anything you’d like to share about Gate 11?
0:04:32.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, I’ll add a few things about the Gate. You mentioned that Gate 11 is associated with the left eye. It’s a visual memory gate. In our last episode, we talked about how Gate 17 is associated with the right eye. So, the left eye has a very subjective way of looking at things. It sees only what it’s meant to see and doesn’t see the big picture. You could have two people looking at the same thing and the person with Gate 11 would be more selective in what they see.
People with Gate 11 defined also just remember what they want to remember and bring only those memories and perceptions forward. I think that’s about all I have to have to add to it. I’m ready to move on to Gate 4, Leslee, unless you have something else to add about Gate 11?
0:05:31.4 Leslee Wegleitner: No, I don’t. But I’m ready for you to go on to Gate 4.
0:05:35.6 Lauri Wakefield: Okay, let’s see. Alright, so Gate 4 is known as the Gate of Formulization or the Gate of Answers. It’s part of the Collective Circuit in the Understanding Sub-Circuit. It’s also a part of the Awareness Stream of Understanding, which is fueled by doubts.
Gate 4 is the first gate we’re going to explore that points to the head center. The Ajna is the only center in the body graph that’s directly connected to the head center. Gate 63, which is known as the Gate of Doubt, is in the Head Center. It forms the Channel of Logic when it’s connected to Gate 4. The purpose of this channel is to recognize doubt and inconsistent patterns and to challenge them – to find the answer to correct the pattern.
0:06:23.9 Lauri Wakefield: The energy of Gate 4 is to find solutions that will correct inconsistent patterns by using logic. It’s designed to formulate potential answers or solutions. These potentials need to be tested over time and need to provide evidence to support that something is true or not true. If you have Gate 4 defined in your chart, the questions you try to answer are from people around you, usually. They’re not questions you’re really asking yourself. They’re not personal questions that originate within you. You pick up on the energy from other people who are doubting and you feel drawn to find the answer.
0:07:00.5 Lauri Wakefield: The mental anxiety associated with Gate 4 is the Fear of Chaos. There’s a fear that order will not be found in the chaos and that things will always be chaotic. It’s more on a societal level and not so much on a personal level. It has to do with patterns in life that we’re all used to and they make us feel a sense of security. Life seems somewhat predictable. We know what to expect until something happens that disrupts our routines.
For example, what happens when we experience a natural disaster? Or how did our lives change with the most recent pandemic? It changed patterns for a lot of people. Disrupted patterns create chaos and confusion and drive people who have Gate 4 defined to come up with an answer that can restore order. Like most of the gates we’ve talked about so far, Gate 4 is part of a Projected channel. So, your answers are best shared when you’re asked to share them; because if you’re not asked to share them, other people aren’t gonna be as receptive to them.
Leslee, you have Gate 4 defined in your chart. Do you wanna share any experience you have with this gate?
0:08:17.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Sure. So, I have a full channel of the 64-47 and then also the Gate 4. So, what I’m witnessing is when I’m processing through an experience. I can definitely feel that Gate 4 bringing up the doubt about what and why I just experienced what I did. And my 4 Gate… My Gate 4 is in my conscious Venus, which is about relating to others. And it feels almost like I’m able to see the other side of the story being played out. And it gives me some sense of logic to bring into that abstract channel that 64-47 and the emotional thinking that as I’m going through the experience. And I can say that I think that 4 really helps me to see both sides – have that doubt but go back in and re-assess and tame down the emotional aspect of that 64-47. Yeah, does that make sense, Lauri?
0:09:21.6 Lauri Wakefield: It does, yeah. And I think… I don’t know. When we were talking before we actually… I actually started recording today. I was talking about how it’s hard for me. . . we’re going through these gates in the Ajna Center, and I have an open Ajna. And I do have Gate 4 defined. I didn’t really talk about Gate 4 for me because it’s in an outer planet, and it’s just not something that I experience on a personal level. . . on a deeply personal level like you do. Venus is more of a… It’s just a different planet. It has… It’s more…
0:10:01.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.
0:10:04.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, you know what I’m talking about. So…
0:10:05.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.
0:10:06.6 Lauri Wakefield: But anyway, so I was thinking about, it’s hard for me to relate to the energy of some of the gates. I can understand them on an intellectual level and I experience them from time to time when I’m around somebody who might have a definition there, and then there are transits that I go through. But in general, I identify with having an open Ajna which means [chuckle] that my thinking is very fluid. I don’t hold too tightly to a lot of things. And thoughts just kind of… The way I process information, it’s just more fluid. But it’s fascinating to me. Well you have a defined Ajna and then you have gates in there that are defined too.
0:10:53.8 Lauri Wakefield: One thing I wanted to say. . .what you were talking about earlier. . .just to make sure that the people who are listening could follow what you were saying. But you were talking about the 64-47, and then you were talking about… When you’re talking about Gate 11, the channel 11-56, and that’s part of the abstract circuit.
0:11:13.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.
0:11:13.9 Lauri Wakefield: So, do you wanna explain a little bit about what you were talking about there? Maybe how having that definition and then how it travels over to the 11-56. You know what I’m talking about?
0:11:29.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, yeah. So, that 64-47. . . I spent a lot of time diving into that channel ’cause I really just didn’t understand it, and yet I knew it was significant in my chart. And I wouldn’t say… I’m an emotional person, but I couldn’t figure out where that charge in my mind was coming from. And then when I started learning more and more about human design, that 64-47 is actually part of that abstract circuitry, which also runs through the emotional center so it’s all connected, correct? So…
0:12:10.8 Lauri Wakefield: Right.
0:12:12.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Then I started connecting the dots ’cause my definition is more tribal in the emotional center, so I don’t have these big ups and downs, I’m pretty… I can stay pretty neutral with most emotional ups or things that are happening. But with that 64-47, it got me to understand that it is about processing the past. So it’s like I can… If something happens in my life, I will sit and reflect on that and reflect on it and try to figure it out and try to figure it out. Well, the mind is not here for me to figure it out [chuckle] about myself. So, to learn to just let that go and then here comes that 4 feeding in these doubts of what happened. . .what I could have done, what I should have did, and just all that stuff adding to the fuel there. Fuel to the fire, or fire to the fuel. [laughter]
0:13:10.0 Lauri Wakefield: Right.
0:13:13.1 Leslee Wegleitner: But… So, and then learning, I don’t have 11-56.
0:13:18.1 Lauri Wakefield: Right, but you were talking about how maybe with your friend or something.
0:13:24.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. So it’s screams down in… The flow of the abstract channel then travels to the 11-56.
0:13:31.6 Lauri Wakefield: Right, exactly.
0:13:32.6 Leslee Wegleitner: So, you’re having… Trying to figure out and reflect on the past and then it brings through the storyteller, right? And so when I’m with my friend that is very much a storytelle,r we connect both of those…
0:13:49.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yes.
0:13:50.0 Leslee Wegleitner: We connect with abstract circuitry there. So within her telling of the stories and we processing the past ’cause that’s what we do with each other. And now that you’re bringing this up, it’s fascinating. I was just with her yesterday, and she’ll be telling the story and we’re both reflecting on the past, but it’s not here for me to solve my own mind things. So, it’s a good to play off of her. We can ask each other questions and go into the past and share that with each other. And then it’s a healing. It feels healing when we’re together. I guess it’s just we have. . . no one has and. . .we bring up the past in a positive way to move through it without really solving it, I guess, if that makes sense.
0:14:46.5 Lauri Wakefield: It does.
0:14:47.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, so hopefully that’s…
0:14:50.4 Lauri Wakefield: Interesting.
0:14:51.0 Leslee Wegleitner: And didn’t confuse [laughter]
0:14:53.0 Lauri Wakefield: What’s that?
0:14:54.5 Leslee Wegleitner: I said hopefully that clarified and didn’t confuse. [laughter]
0:14:58.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, no I… It made sense to me. I know it’s not… That wasn’t the focus of this podcast, but I just wanted… Because you mentioned the 64-47, and I just wanted to try to explain a little bit. . . how that feeds into the 11-56. So. . .
0:15:15.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.
0:15:15.4 Lauri Wakefield: So, another thing when you’re talking about storyteller, and I’m not talking about your friend at all, but I’m just saying something I read about it that was funny. Sometimes, they’ll only tell half truths or half the story [laughter] Does that make sense?
0:15:33.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, being abstract and being that left eye that doesn’t really see in the now.
0:15:41.3 Lauri Wakefield: Right.
0:15:42.0 Leslee Wegleitner: That makes sense where it’s over time. So, it’s like every time you go back into that story, they’re probably remembering another little piece. And so then the clarity eventually they’re… But their storytelling is about helping the other, not really for them…
0:16:00.6 Lauri Wakefield: Exactly, yeah.
0:16:03.0 Leslee Wegleitner: To feel the story so… Yeah. And it’s just in this person that I’m referring to is amazing because that’s what she does. That’s her work.
0:16:13.1 Lauri Wakefield: Right. Yeah, it’s very interesting. So, I think we probably covered everything we wanted to share today. You think so?
0:16:21.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, very good.
0:16:24.1 Lauri Wakefield: So that’ll wrap things up for this episode. Thanks for joining us today!
In our next episode, we’ll talk about the fears that can be found in Gates 24 and 47.
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Thanks again and have a great day!
0:16:56.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Thanks, everyone.