0:00:00.7 Lauri Wakefield: Welcome, thanks for joining us today, I’m Lauri.

0:00:03.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Hi everyone, I’m Leslee.

0:00:05.2 Lauri Wakefield: Today we’re gonna talk about the 4/1 Profile, and I will start with giving an overview of the Profile and then we’re gonna talk about the different parts of the 4/1 Profile. I’ll talk about Line 4 and then Leslee will talk about Line 1, and we’ll share different things, like she might add some more to the Line 4 and I might add some more to the Line 1. Then we’ll bring the two together and talk about a few famous people who have the 4/1 Profile or mention them at least. [chuckle] I wanted to say too, I was just thinking about this while I was getting my notes together, I just wanted to say thank you to the people who’ve been consistently listening to our podcast. I know Leslee and I both really appreciate it, so just wanted to say thank you. And I didn’t even say anything to you about that, that I was gonna say that, did I?

0:00:55.2 Leslee Wegleitner: No.

0:00:55.9 Lauri Wakefield: That was one of those kind of spontaneous things that I threw in there outta the blue, isn’t it? [laughter] But it was a good one, that was great.

0:01:01.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:01:02.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, but I mean it. Anyway, so let’s see. One thing I was gonna say, you and I had talked about this before that there are two Profiles that have the same Lines, but they’re just like one of them is in the personality, one of them is in the unconscious. Let me explain what I’m trying to say, okay? So we’re doing the 4/1 today, a couple weeks ago we did, actually it was more than a couple weeks ago but we did the 1/4. Both of those Profiles have the 1 and the 4, and then another two Profiles that have the same Lines, or the 2/5 and the 5/2, and then the 3/6 and the 6/3. We did talk about the 1/4 before, the difference is that the Line 4 this time is on the personality side and the Line 1 is on the unconscious design side. So Line 4 or, excuse me, Profile 4/1, it’s a really interesting Profile because it’s not like the other Profiles like the Left Angle or the Right Angle, it’s actually, they call it a bridge between the Personal Destiny of the Right Angle Profiles and the Transpersonal Karma of the Left Angle Profiles.

0:02:21.7 Lauri Wakefield: So it’s kind of interesting. Like it’s neither Personal Destiny or Transpersonal Karma, it’s neither, it’s known as a fixed fate or Destiny. So I quickly, again, the Profile, it’s basically the role that you’re here to play to carry out your life’s purpose. So the 4/1 is one of the least common Profiles, about 2.38% of the population has that Profile, it’s made up of Line 4, the opportunist, and Line 1, the investigator, so basically they’re designed to share with their network. Well, actually, I’ll say that towards the end of it, but let me just go into Line 4 and then you can share a few things about it, Leslee, and then we can talk about Line 1. So Line 4, and I was thinking too, last time I was, wow, we’ve been talking about this a bunch of times, the Line 4, but actually we had only talked about it like two other times, so this is the last time as far as Profiles are concerned that we’re gonna be talking about the Line 4. So I’ll probably repeat a few things that we’ve already said in the past, hopefully say things a little bit differently or maybe even say some things that haven’t been said, which I doubt, but I’ll try. [chuckle]

0:03:45.9 Leslee Wegleitner: I doubt it. [chuckle]

0:03:47.3 Lauri Wakefield: So anyway, okay. So the Line 4 is friendly, we talked about that last time, they’re socially open, and so, okay, Line 4 is about being friendly, it’s about networks, it’s about creating networks and sustaining networks, because the networks are where they’re gonna find the opportunities, and it’s not necessarily opportunities to do things like business opportunities or anything like that, it’s opportunities a lot of times to just share things with the network. Well, I was thinking as I was getting my notes together, about how, it’s an interesting Profile because the Line 4, they don’t like to necessarily study things in-depth, it’s more about getting a basic understanding and being able to explain it, having enough details to be able to explain it, it’s not something they have to personally experience, but they get enough details to be able to explain it to people in the network who would benefit from it. You know what I’m saying, Leslee?

0:04:51.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Yep.

0:04:52.8 Lauri Wakefield: It’s not necessarily for their own benefit, it’s to benefit the person that they’re talking to or the people they’re talking to. But the Line 1 is the investigators, they’re really studied things in-depth, so it’s kind of a contrast between the two, isn’t it interesting?

0:05:08.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:05:09.1 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So that was, let’s see, one thing I wanted to say, influential and then, well, they’re naturally able to establish relationships and friendships. Another thing I wanted to say too, and I didn’t mention it last time, but with the Line 4, they could be talking to somebody, and we’ve talked about abdicating, that they’re not gonna push what they think or push whatever information they have that they wanna share, if somebody doesn’t wanna listen, they’re like, oh, okay, whatever. So they may be standing there and somebody’s trying to convince them of something, so instead of standing there and arguing with them, trying to push their points, they’ll let the other person talk and they maybe kind of nod their head and stuff that, and they won’t outwardly disagree or anything, but when they walk away, and especially the Line 1, the person with the Line 1, but they’ll walk away and they know what they think, you know what I mean? So the other person isn’t gonna sway them even though they were agreeable with them while they were talking to them, does that make sense?

0:06:13.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, yep, it does.

0:06:15.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, so anyway, I’m just gonna let you talk about the Line 1 now, because I don’t really have anything more to say than we probably haven’t already said a few times.

0:06:28.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Well, one thing I was just gonna point out, being Line 4 in the mind or the personal position of the conscious position, which is all the same, that they’re constantly thinking about people and what you will give them and what you will get back from the people, and within the network. So just coming from that aspect of being that it is conscious ’cause I’m gonna go into a little bit about that with Line 1 being the unconscious, but as far as this is the general characteristics of the investigator, is they can appear impulsive and stubborn. And that they’re not really listening to anyone else, but the truth is that they’ve already done their research and they’re able then to convey or bring forward what they have learned, that they’re in their nature, they’re just natural explorers and researchers, and they really wanna get to the depth of things from the beginning to the ending, so that they can have a good foundation and understanding what they wanna share with others or what they have learned. And then in this process, it gives them a little bit of their weaknesses and their strengths, but it also helps them kind of discern that from other people and see that in their abilities also. It’s kind of their purpose of their foundation is to have that security with themself, that they know, their weaknesses and their strengths.

0:07:58.4 Leslee Wegleitner: So another thing is, it’s about their fears almost, that they have these fears of not being able to have a secure and foundation of knowing what they wanna explain to someone, so that that depth kinda comes from that music, fear of not knowing and speaking from not knowing. But what I wanted to bring up, oh, and then from a more mystical aspect of the one… Well, actually, I’m gonna back up, so being that it’s in the unconscious, so it’s all about the body, so in this placement versus the 1/3 being in the conscious aspect, being about the body, so they’re gonna really wanna know those sensations and what the body is doing in certain experiences and understand why it was doing or why they were having the sensations that they were having, and then that’s the reflective process to dive into, to understand if they’re in the right place, if they’re with the right people in the right situation, and to feel it in their body. Which is kind of important because being there in this 4/1 Destiny, it’s really important that they are with the right people, and if they get off course to get back on course is really, really important for them. And so that’s kind of that mystical aspect of knowing what’s bringing joy to them and understanding that sensation or those awareness within the body. Yeah, I think that was my biggest point that I really wanted to bring forth, it’s not about the mind so much in this placement, it’s more about their body awareness.

0:09:48.5 Lauri Wakefield: Right, for the Line 1?

0:09:50.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, for the line one. And it’s really…

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0:09:51.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, ’cause it was a little bit different for the Line when were talking about the 1/4 Profile?

0:09:57.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Right, or the 1/3. So it’s really their physical experiences on a daily basis and the details of how that is for them within the body, and aligning to that in their knowing of self.

0:10:18.3 Lauri Wakefield: So I don’t really have anything to add to that, I mean, that’s one of the ones that we’ve talked about a lot, actually this is gonna be the last time we talk about the Line 4.

0:10:27.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Oh yeah.

0:10:28.2 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Well, so I mean as far as the Profile. I might have already said that at the beginning, but all well. So when you put the two Lines together, the Line 4 is about externalizing, it’s about interacting with the network, getting information out to the network to the people that they know, and then Line 4 is the investigative introspective, they wanna understand how things work. So what they externalize is what they want to investigate and they wanna learn through interaction with other people. Especially the 4/1 Profile, it’s where they learn a lot is through their interaction with other people, and people with the 4/1, probably most people, they just really like the study of human behavior, so isn’t that interesting?

0:11:25.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, it is.

0:11:28.2 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, so we were talking, you don’t know anybody who has a 4/1 Profile?

0:11:35.6 Leslee Wegleitner: I don’t.

0:11:39.0 Lauri Wakefield: Okay. I found a few famous people that have it, I’ll list those and then, I don’t know, if we don’t know anybody, we might not really have a whole a lot more to say. [laughter]

0:11:50.5 Leslee Wegleitner: No, there was just a couple of things that I came across I thought were kind of interesting, is they really don’t like to be criticized because of their fixed energy.

0:12:00.2 Lauri Wakefield: So which are you talking about for that?

0:12:02.2 Leslee Wegleitner: The 4/1, like the whole Profile, they don’t wanna be criticized because of their fixed energy, and they are here to really live their life out in a very specific way, because it’s all about their Destiny, right? And they’re not here to kind of waiver, they want this control of their life, if diverted from their faith, then they can have their life kind of fall apart as a research and try to get their life back on purpose again, so you can kinda get that sense of why they might have this rigidity and just what may appear to be kind of inflexible, but it’s like they are really here for their Destiny, and they’re based on their unique Destiny is all about their conscious son.

0:12:50.4 Lauri Wakefield: Oh yeah, I know of that. Yeah.

0:12:52.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, so that was kind of an interesting if you really start thinking that. And then I heard somebody, which I thought was so perfect, and so when change is upon them, they will investigate everything before making that change, it’s kind of like Sheldon on the Big Bang Theory, and that made me laugh, I’m like, “Oh, my gosh, I can kind of see that.” You know, that kind of puts it really in perspective, it’s like, “Oh, yeah.” [laughter]

0:13:17.8 Lauri Wakefield: That’s a Sheldon thing, right?

0:13:19.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, yeah, the Sheldon, did I say Sheldon?

0:13:21.0 Lauri Wakefield: You did. Yeah.

0:13:22.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, I think I did. Yeah, it’s like, oh, my gosh, everything it is, is constantly, the investigative personality of like this and that and the science person, but yeah.

0:13:34.1 Lauri Wakefield: Interesting.

0:13:35.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. So, who are the famous people?

0:13:38.6 Lauri Wakefield: I was gonna say something and I don’t remember what it was while you’re talking, I had something to add to what you said but I don’t remember. So famous people, Roseanne Barr is a 4/1, and then like one of my favorite celebrities of all time, Tom Brady is a 4/1, Eminem is a 4/1. Bette Midler, Scotty Pippen, for people who know anything about basketball, he played in the NBA for years. And then Zoë Kravitz and Sarah Palin, who is a politician is also. Yeah, but anyway, so that’s probably about it, and then we’re gonna move into the Left Angle Profile. So we don’t have a Line that we haven’t talked about yet. And actually in that we’ve got, there are… Well, ’cause I told you we’re done with the Line 4 today. And then with the Left Angle, it’s always the personality side, the first number is always gonna be larger than the second number, like it’s a flip for the Right Angle. The first Line will be the smaller number and the second Line will be the larger number.

0:15:01.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Oh, interesting, yep. So what?

[laughter]

0:15:05.6 Lauri Wakefield: Just an interesting thing I noticed. So, like who cares? But anyway, so did you have anything else that you wanted to add to this Profile or are we ready to probably wrap things up?

0:15:19.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, I think we’re good.

0:15:21.8 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, one thing I wanted to say too, in the background, Leslee and I have been working on something that we’re gonna be releasing, and I guess you would call it a document ’cause it’s not really a workbook that we’re gonna be releasing for coaches, so if we have any coaches that are listening to the podcast, or whoever’s listening, if you know of a coach who might be interested, we’re gonna be releasing that document probably, I would say by within the next couple of weeks. And when we do release it, we’ll announce it on the podcast and we will also link to it in the show notes, so just wanted to mention that. What’s the name of it called, Leslee?

[laughter]

0:16:05.2 Leslee Wegleitner: You put me on the spot. Gosh, aha Moments, I’m sorry, I’m drawing a link.

0:16:11.7 Lauri Wakefield: Coaching Clients Toward Their Aha Moments.

0:16:14.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Aha Moments, yes, I knew the Aha Moments part, I’m like, Aha.

0:16:18.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, Aha as in epiphanies, right?

0:16:21.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:16:22.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:16:22.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Exactly.

0:16:23.2 Lauri Wakefield: So anyway, okay, so that’s gonna wrap things up for this episode. [chuckle] Did I catch you off guard? I kind of threw that in there, didn’t I?

0:16:30.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]

0:16:32.7 Lauri Wakefield: Well, you know what? I’ll tell you something, I don’t know. A lot of times, we just kind of go along and it’s like, okay, this is what we’re talking about but it’s like, I actually am pretty spontaneous by nature.

0:16:44.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Yes, you are. [laughter]

0:16:45.3 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, so anyway, I threw those in there and caught you off guard, didn’t I?

[laughter]

0:16:48.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Yes, you did.

0:16:49.6 Lauri Wakefield: I even caught myself off guard. But anyway, so that’ll wrap things up for this episode, thanks so much for joining us today. In our next episode, we’re gonna be moving into, like I already said, into the Left Angle Profiles and we’re gona be discussing the 5/1 Profile. If you’d like to see the show notes for today’s podcast, you can find them on our website at www.alignandachievebydesign.com. The show notes will be listed under podcasts, episode 34, if you’d like to join us as we continue our exploration into The Roles We’re Here to Play, please be sure to subscribe to our podcast. Thanks again and have a great day.

0:17:29.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Thanks, everyone.