0:00:00.5 Lauri Wakefield: Welcome. Thanks for joining us today. I’m Lauri.

0:00:03.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Hi everyone, I’m Leslie.

0:00:05.3 Lauri Wakefield: So today we’re gonna talk about the 4/6 Profile. In the last episode I mentioned that both Leslie and I are 4/6 Profiles. So we’ll be able to to add a little bit about our own experience with both Lines and then just as a Profile itself. So we’re gonna start it with an overview of the Profile and then we’ll talk about the different parts of the 4/6 Profile which would be the different Lines. So this time we’re gonna do it a little bit different than we’ve been doing with the Profiles, I’m gonna do the Line 4 and then Leslie’s gonna talk about the Line 6. And I know that we’ve talked about the Line 4 a few times, we’ve actually only talked about the Line 6, this will only be the second time that we’ve talked about the Line 6. But the Line 4 it, we’re gonna try to share some things maybe in a different way or maybe just a few additional details, just so that it’s not completely repetitive, [laughter] from what we’ve already talked about.

0:01:04.7 Lauri Wakefield: So we’ll do that and then we’re gonna talk about the Profile in its highest expression which is when you’re following strategy and authority. And then I’m gonna mention a few famous people with the 4/6 Profile. So just for a quick review, the Profile is it’s an archetype, it’s the character or character of the role that you’re here to play to accomplish your life’s purpose. And that you’ve got the two different Lines in there. So the first Line is from the conscious side of the body graph and the second Line is from the unconscious side of the body graph. And there’s an attempt there to try to bring the two together, because there are differences between the two Lines. So anyway, the 4/6 Profile is one of the most common Profiles, about 14.28% of the population has this Profile. The Line 4 as we’ve mentioned already is known as the opportunist and then the Line 6 is known as the role model.

0:02:08.0 Lauri Wakefield: So basically when you put the two Lines together someone with this Profile is designed to share with their network what it means to be authentic or to be a role model to their network. So Line is the Opportunist, just some characteristics about it, that they genuinely like to connect with others. They enjoy intimate conversations, hanging out with friends and family and networking with other people especially on a professional level. Relationships are important because then that’s where they’re gonna find their opportunities. And then it’s important for them to be accepted for who they are, they don’t wanna be, they don’t wanna pretend to be something that they’re not they wanna just be accepted for who they are. In general they don’t like to be criticized, I don’t know, do you find that Leslie like with yourself that you don’t like to be criticized?

0:03:01.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. I don’t know if anyone really does but. [laughter]

0:03:05.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, but really that’s what I was gonna say, not that anybody really does but they’re maybe a little bit more sensitive to it. But I was thinking I know for myself like criticism as long as it’s something that is not like somebody is not saying it to be mean but they’re saying it because it’s just an observation that they had and it’s something that would benefit me to hear it. Something that needs to improve or whatever, I’m not… I don’t have a problem with that type of criticism, but when I was younger.

0:03:34.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:03:34.8 Lauri Wakefield: I think I was more sensitive to things and because I think sometimes it’s like a criticism can come across as being like an attack on our character and sometimes it’s not. It’s just more about something that we’re… We could be doing a different way or something like that. So but anyway that was just something I wanted to mention, maybe it’s true… More true for people when they’re a little bit younger with the criticism part of it. What else? Okay. They crave predictability stability and consistency and need to know, they need to know what’s next. And then… Okay so with a job like they… When we… I think this is an example that you brought up a few episodes ago, but they’re the type that it’s hard for them to quit a job, if they’re gonna quit a job they’ll have another job lined up usually. And then another thing that we’ve mentioned in the past is a tendency to abdicate. And then that’s within the network where they’re trying to share something with the network for the benefit of the network or the benefit… To benefit that person.

0:04:40.8 Lauri Wakefield: And if the person isn’t receptive to it they’re not gonna persist with it they’ll just turn around and either change the subject or turn around and walk away, I guess. [chuckle] So do you have anything more that you wanted to say about the Line four or you wanna just start talking about the Line six?

0:05:01.7 Leslee Wegleitner: I don’t… Did you mention about needing time alone?

0:05:04.9 Lauri Wakefield: No, I didn’t.

0:05:05.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Like the 4 can sometimes… Yeah. Sometimes they need time away, they need a break from people even though that they are naturally want to be around people, but then there’s a breaking point. And then the I guess the other thing is, I find interesting is that they naturally influence or connect with strangers but usually strangers being introduced to them. So they’re very social but they like to stay within their network and…

0:05:34.6 Lauri Wakefield: Right, Exactly. And that that’s where the opportunities are gonna come along too, it’s not usually… Well I shouldn’t say, it works better when it’s through the network than through strangers.

0:05:44.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Right, right. Yeah. So it’s kind of fascinating how that all just kind of works naturally. But yeah network is very important. So yeah I guess that that’s all I had but if you have something else.

0:05:55.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, I was just gonna… No, no, no. I was just gonna say isn’t it kind of it’s hard ’cause it’s like I feel like we’re beating it into the crown, [laughter] you know what I mean? We… ‘Cause we’ve talked about the Line 4 so many times, but anyway the the Line six we can start talking about that now.

0:06:11.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. So the Line 6 like we’ve mentioned the last time also the big part of it, it’s comes in three different parts. So the first 30 years it’s about the experience and the trial and error of things and they’re just naturally… It’s gonna be a lot like the Line 3. So they’re kind of gonna be bumping into things and having that trial and error process to discover things. And then it moves into like a second stage where it’s about stepping back and reflecting and integrating of what all happened. So it’s kind of like they say you’re going up on the roof. And then the third stage is the Chiron like around 50 and after 50, where you kind of get to use that reflection time and observation and the healing and integration that happened in that second phase. And you get to bring your wisdom about what you’ve learned to your network, being that we’re talking around Line four. And then you looked at as kind of the wisdom or what you’ve learned through that phase.

0:07:21.6 Lauri Wakefield: The wise one.

0:07:23.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, the wise one. That’s the word I’m looking for. So that… It’s interesting because with that Line 6 that’s kind of like the staples of what they talk about. And I was kind of thinking about this and how it’s… It wasn’t so cut and dry like they say till the age of 30 and then to the age of 50 that the… And it wasn’t that literal for me, it was more… I would think… I think we talked about this kind of moving into the 35 range, right?

0:07:58.8 Lauri Wakefield: Right.

0:07:58.9 Leslee Wegleitner: So I’m still kind of bumping it and am still kind of learning, then I’m up on the roof but there was a lot of… I can’t say I was completely aloof, that was a really busy time I was raising children, I was out around a lot, I was running a coffee shop. There was a lot of network and a lot of intermingling with people, but the idea of establishing and observing and integrating what I was learning and the healing process of through up to the 35 was all present. But I can’t say I was so aloof and separated from people. So I don’t know if I’m taking it too literal of what they’re saying, but just something that I observed. It was like I was still very much in a network and around people as I was doing that.

0:08:48.8 Lauri Wakefield: Right.

0:08:49.7 Leslee Wegleitner: And then I have… Now at 56 I have noticed the network coming and calling me out for information or what I’m wise about or what I’ve learned through all that. But so yeah, and hopefully that continues and I’ll keep growing. [laughter]

0:09:09.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:09:10.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, go ahead.

0:09:11.7 Lauri Wakefield: No I was just gonna say, okay, so like, up on the roof, I don’t know that it’s necessarily… I think it is a reflective time but I don’t think it’s necessarily where we completely pull or let’s not say completely, but where we pull away from people necessarily. It’s like if you think about sitting on a roof, it’s like you’re overlooking things. It’s like sitting on top of a mountain just overlooking things and reflecting. And so I don’t know because I know you and I have talked about that in the past and how that actually was a time where I was very… It was a tough time, probably from the age of maybe 35 to my early 40s to where I was a single parent and just it was a tough time in my life. I had… When I was 35 I had just gotten out of a bad relationship and fortunately it was one that didn’t last very long. But it was a time like where I was just like, I have two kids to raise and I… It’s like I wanna focus on that, I wanna focus on it. I went back to college, I finished my college degree, I quit smoking and it was just like a time that was a very productive and I don’t know, like fulfilling to myself as far as doing things that were good for myself.

0:10:29.9 Lauri Wakefield: So that I can be a better parent to my kids too, but it was a time where I didn’t… But how do you separate that when you are a single parent? ‘Cause that you were a single.

0:10:39.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:10:40.0 Lauri Wakefield: Parent for a while too. So like how do you necessarily separate that from, okay, well it’s because of the Line 6 or it’s just because it’s that time of my life they kind of coincided. So it worked out well.

0:10:53.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:10:53.7 Lauri Wakefield: For me, but it was a very reflective time and there was a 7-year gap between the age of 35 until I met my husband that the… I met Andy in 2002 and we’ve been together for a long time. But if I hadn’t had that time to just grow into like who I am and do things that were right for myself and try to rush into something, I don’t think I probably would’ve had the type of relationship that I… And I feel blessed, I really honestly do, I feel blessed to have the relationship that I do with him. But it was because when we attract people or attract things it’s we’re gonna attract where we’re at within ourselves.

0:11:38.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:11:39.3 Lauri Wakefield: You know what I’m saying? So we’re gonna attract healthy, we’re gonna attract unhealthy, so anyway. Yeah. So yeah it was a time where I could identify with being on the roof, but there are other people I’m sure who have the Line 6 in their Profile who it may not be quite as… It may could just be a different time, but the thing is, is during that phase the ultimate goal is to reach the point where you express yourself authentically, to be the truest expression of yourself. And then when people are able to be that way, they inspire other people to be that way, you know what I’m saying?

0:12:17.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:12:17.9 Lauri Wakefield: It kind of people feed off of it. So there’s a sense of just being able to be… Not have to think about like, who you are, you know what I mean? Not have to think about something you’re gonna say or way you’re gonna act or something. You know what I mean? It’s like you’re just kind of just being who you are and accepting, that’s something I don’t think anybody can reach that a 100% but to get to that point where you’re, that’s… I don’t know. Do you know what I’m saying? I’m probably not making any sense, but anyway it’s…

0:12:55.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Well.

0:12:56.6 Lauri Wakefield: Go ahead.

0:12:56.7 Leslee Wegleitner: I think what that 6 with the 4 though, that 4 is gonna always pull us into the networks, right?

0:13:03.8 Lauri Wakefield: Yes.

0:13:03.9 Leslee Wegleitner: And so it’s like… So that 6 is in that phase you’re reflecting, observing and you’re healing and integrating, but you’re still a part of the networks.

0:13:14.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yes.

0:13:14.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Whatever that is.

0:13:15.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:13:15.8 Leslee Wegleitner: If the network is at your work or the network is your family or your community, where if you had a 2 or something it might be more where you’re really pulled back and you’re on the roof like you are…

0:13:27.1 Lauri Wakefield: Right, exactly.

0:13:27.9 Leslee Wegleitner: You’re hermit and you’re not really a part of things. So yeah, I think the combination is important to kind of also assess where you’re breaking down the three, for the…

0:13:40.1 Lauri Wakefield: Oh yeah, definitely, definitely.

0:13:42.4 Leslee Wegleitner: ‘Cause three…

0:13:42.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, ’cause it appears up there kind of… Exactly, ’cause we’ll get into that. Yeah, we’ll get into that in the one of the future episodes, which is kind of an interesting one.

0:13:49.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:13:50.0 Lauri Wakefield: ‘Cause we’ve done the 3/6, yeah, it’s just a flip on that, but.

0:13:53.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:13:54.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:13:55.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Where you gonna have a whole lot more of the trial and error and putting it together, so.

0:14:01.8 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:14:02.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:14:02.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So I was just gonna say, like the first stage, it’s formative, the second stage is transformative and the third stage is when you emerge as the embodiment of your true self. So, that’s kind of a way to look at it, I was gonna say something while you’re talking now I can’t remember what the heck it was.

0:14:18.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Well, and I do wanna add, so the 4 being that’s the personality side, if you’re not living to your strategy and authority that’s the first Profile that’s gonna come out. So that if you don’t have that foundation of that 4 happening the 6 is not gonna emerge either.

0:14:35.9 Lauri Wakefield: Right. Right.

0:14:36.8 Leslee Wegleitner: So that’s… But about the Profiles, it’s why it brings us back to the strategy and authority because it all kind of aligns everything.

0:14:45.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:14:46.0 Leslee Wegleitner: You know you’re gonna be in the right networks and…

0:14:47.8 Lauri Wakefield: Right. Exactly. Yeah. And I think too, like, I was actually thinking about somebody who doesn’t have the 4/6, but has 4 in their Profile. But just like… Okay, so like your network it doesn’t mean it’s a single group of people, it just means people that it’s people in your contact list, people in your email list. Those are all people that you interact with and it doesn’t have to be like people you hang out with all the time or people you talk to all the time. It’s just people that you can reach out to and say, “Hey, I was thinking about you, how are things going? Or I’ve thought even maybe thought you might like this or share ideas and stuff like that.” But yeah, like I was… Somebody that my husband and I know he’s got 4 in his Profile and he’s just got this huge network of people it’s like if you’re thinking like, oh, let me call this person, let me call this… You know what I mean? But that’s something that’s built, you know what I mean? And…

0:15:51.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:15:52.4 Lauri Wakefield: If your network… If you have a good network, then it’s just you not only find opportunities, but you also can reach out to people who can help with things.

0:16:04.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Right. Connect you to where you want. Yeah.

0:16:06.9 Lauri Wakefield: Exactly. Yeah.

0:16:07.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Where you’re aligned to. Yeah.

0:16:10.4 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So do you wanna talk about, like in its higher expression?

0:16:16.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Well, the higher expression would be just to reach that point of being able to share the wisdom, right?

0:16:23.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:16:25.3 Leslee Wegleitner: But the the lower expression, I found kind of interesting because it’s was more about like impulsively bumping into things in the… With the first stage and later being kind of pessimistic or distant or detached. Because you’re not being able to establish the network that’s coming at you for the wisdom, so you’re kind of like all over the place. And I find that kind of fascinating where it’s like, oh, that kind of makes sense, because there’s nothing really grounding you, there’s no foundation for you to connect to, to be called out for your wisdom. So you’re kind of like bouncing all over, and that’s what I was kind of finding for the lowest expression.

0:17:13.1 Lauri Wakefield: Right. So, anyway… Well, do you know anybody besides me? [laughter] Who have the 4/6?

0:17:19.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Well, besides me and you who has a 4/6? [laughter]

0:17:21.9 Lauri Wakefield: Well, actually a lot of people do, I know quite a few people. One thing I was gonna say, we’ve talked about how they’re friendly, I think about people I know who have 4/6, they’re usually pretty friendly people.

0:17:35.8 Leslee Wegleitner: They really are, people kind of like gravitate towards them. Yeah, they’re not yeah, friendly. I don’t know another word for it, but yeah.

0:17:45.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, yeah. So anyway, I was gonna name a few famous people. Okay, Drew Barrymore is one, now isn’t she like a smiley?

0:17:49.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Oh.

0:17:50.7 Lauri Wakefield: Isn’t she a smiley girl?

0:17:52.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. [laughter]

0:17:52.9 Lauri Wakefield: She just seems like she’d like, like you’d walk up to her and you’d be like, “Hey Drew?” she’d be like, “Hey, how’s it going?”

0:18:00.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Very warm.

0:18:01.2 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, yeah.

0:18:01.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:18:01.8 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Okay, so Drew Barrymore, David Beckham the soccer player.

0:18:06.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Okay. Yeah.

0:18:06.7 Lauri Wakefield: Is a 4, he’s a little bit more serious kind of, I don’t know, when I’ve seen him, but he seems like a pretty friendly guy too. Brad Pitt.

0:18:16.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Okay. Yeah.

0:18:17.3 Lauri Wakefield: Minnie Driver, Minnie… She is an actress, I haven’t actually seen her in anything recently.

0:18:23.6 Leslee Wegleitner: No.

0:18:23.7 Lauri Wakefield: I don’t know what she’s been doing, she’s my buddy, I’m gonna have to call Minnie.

[laughter]

0:18:27.5 Lauri Wakefield: I’ll call Minnie after we get off the call.

[laughter]

0:18:30.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:18:31.0 Lauri Wakefield: Anyway Peter Dinklage from Game of Thrones, he also.

0:18:34.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Okay.

0:18:35.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yep. Yep. So anyway, I don’t know, did you have anything else that you wanted to add to it or are we about ready to wrap things up?

0:18:43.4 Leslee Wegleitner: I think we’re ready to wrap it up.

0:18:45.4 Lauri Wakefield: Okay. Thanks so much for joining us today. In our next episode in the roles we’re here to play series, we’ll discuss the 4/1 Profile. Actually, you know what, Leslee I meant to ask you before we even got on the call, are we going to the juxtaposition or are we gonna go into the left angle first?

0:19:02.2 Leslee Wegleitner: I guess we can do the 4/1, sure the juxtaposition. Yep.

0:19:05.3 Lauri Wakefield: Okay. So we’ll do the 4/1 Profile next episode, if you’d like to see the show notes for today’s podcast. You can find them on our website at www.alignandachievebydesign.com, the show notes will be listed on under Podcasts Episode 33. If you’d like to join us as we continue our exploration into the roles we’re here to play, please be sure to subscribe to our podcast. Thanks again and have a great day.

0:19:29.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Thanks everyone.