0:00:00.0 Lauri Wakefield: Welcome. Thanks for joining us today. I’m Lauri.

0:00:03.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Hi, everyone. I’m Leslee.

0:00:06.0 Lauri Wakefield: So, today we’re going to talk about the 1-4 Profile, and I’m going to do an overview of it and then both Leslee and I will talk about the two parts of the 1-4 Profile. And then we’ll get into the highest expression of it when someone’s following their strategy and authority. And then we’ll just list a few famous people who have the 1-4 Profile. So, the 1-4 Profile, I just wanted to go back to just talking about what the Profile is before I get into the different parts of it. So, the Profile is something that gives us insights into how we’re meant to accomplish our life’s purpose. It’s the role that we’re here to play, and the archetype of both lines operating simultaneously is expressed through specific characteristics or traits. So, this is the second right angle Profile that we’re going to look at. And the two keywords, when you put ’em together, are basically the Investigator Opportunist. The 1-4 Profile is one of the least common Profiles that’s actually about 2.3% of the population. And both lines in the 1-4 Profile, they’re called foundation lines. So, when you look at the lines in the Profiles, there are six of them. And the first 1-3 lines are called the lower trigram. And then the 4-6 are in the upper trigram. So the 1-4 Profile, both of the lines, they’re the 1st line, they’re the foundation line for the upper and lower trigram. Sorry.

0:01:52.4 Lauri Wakefield: So, they’re also known as being in harmony with each other, so it’s probably in some ways a little bit less challenging when you put the two together. The 1st line in the lower trigram, line 1 is inner focused, and line 4 is outer focused. So, lower trigram lines are self-absorbed and they’re really more interested in their own processes rather than sharing it with other people. Where the upper trigram it’s called Transpersonal. They’re the outer directed, and they have just innate desire to share with others or to externalize what they know or what they’ve experienced in life. So, with the Profile 1-4, you’ve got the line 1 and the line 4. The line 1 is to investigate, and the line 4 is to externalize. So, you’ve got something like where they externalize what they want to investigate. And that might make a little bit more sense when I start talking a little bit about the two separate lines. So, line 1 is the conscious line, it’s in the personality side and they want to understand how things work. Line 4 is the unconscious or design side, and they want to get the information out to their network. Line 1, I mentioned this a little bit earlier, they’re very self-absorbed, so they’re not really interested in sharing what they know with other people. It’s more just kinda their own process.

0:03:38.5 Lauri Wakefield: And then line 4, people are basically friendly, sharing what they know, what they’ve investigated, it’s only going to benefit them or it’s only going to work if they’re sharing with people in their network that are the correct people. And that’s something that we or anybody who has a line 4 is going to establish the right network by following their strategy and authority. So the line 1, the keywords for the line 1, we actually went through this last episode, but I’m going to go through some of the characteristics again. So the keywords for line 1 are Investigator, it’s investigative introspective. They want to be in authority or an expert, and they’re reluctant to share with other people until they’re secure enough with what they know. And then the line 4, the keyword for that is the Opportunist. So, they have a desire, it’s like an innate desire to form a group or a network of friends or people that they have a relation, they want to develop relationships. But in order for things to work for them to draw the right opportunities to them, they have to have a healthy network. They have to have the right people. Part of the line 4 is that also they want to be able to influence the people in their network and it’s not in a bad way, it’s not that they want to try to convince people of things.

0:05:31.9 Lauri Wakefield: As a matter of fact, they’re the type of people, like both you and I have line 4, and we don’t have 1-4 Profiles, but we have line 4 in our Profile, right, Leslee? So, we both kind of understand some of the characteristics of line 4, but the line 4 is like, they like to influence people, but if they’re trying to influence somebody who’s not interested in what they’re saying, they’ll do what’s called abdicating, or they’ll just kinda back off. And they’re not going to stand there and try to convince somebody that what they believe, or what they think, or what they know is right, they’ll back off. And it doesn’t mean that they change what they think or that they question what they think, but what they’ll do is they’ll just reach out to other people. It’s kinda like a salesperson. Well, I’m not saying line 4 is like a salesperson, but that particular part of it, it’s like somebody who, “Okay. Well, you’re not interested? Okay. Well, I’ll go to the next person.” You know what I mean? So it’s like they’re not afraid to influence people, but they’re not going to try to convince somebody. So, they hang onto what they believe and then they’ll just wait for the right opportunity to share it with people who are… And the thing is, when they do share, it’s not for themselves, it’s to help benefit the other person.

0:06:50.9 Lauri Wakefield: So their best opportunities are going to be through their personal networks. And it’s not with people they don’t know. It’s people that they have a relationship with. And the larger their network, the more they’re going to have opportunities show up, which can mean, depending on what’s, I don’t know, what’s driving you for the network. Like if you’re somebody who’s involved in a business and you’re trying to further your business, then that network can be… There’s more potential for success. The more people that you know, the more opportunities that are there. And then with a smaller network, you’re going to have limited opportunities or fewer opportunities that are going to show up. So I kind of got like, I had other things I wanted to say about both of the lines, and I’m kinda getting myself mixed up here, so yeah, I was going to talk… Okay, so when the two lines are paired together, so you’ve got the 1, the investigative part, the line 1, the conscious side, and then the unconscious side, the line 4, the opportunist side. So when you put ’em them together and they’re following their strategy and authority, like they can be really clear about what they want to investigate and based on what they want to share and how they want to influence people in their network.

0:08:19.2 Lauri Wakefield: And, oh, another thing I wanted to say. Okay, I did talk about abdicating that they can abdicate. I know that with myself, even though I’m not a 1-4 Profile, I mean, do you ever find that with yourself, with the line 4, Leslee?

0:08:30.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Yap, yap.

0:08:32.4 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. And it doesn’t mean you back away, you’re like, ooh, like [laughter], I don’t know, like you’re afraid because they didn’t, you just move on. It’s like you kind of accept that this isn’t the right person to be talking to.

0:08:46.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Right. In this kind of sense but either are okay. [chuckle]

0:08:50.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Oh, another thing I wanted to say is that like, even though they’re friendly, they can experience people burnout. And that’s especially true if like they have the wrong network of people. Like that’s something that’s super important, when they’re building their network, is just to be led by strategy and authority. Because if you build a network that’s not the right people, it’s not going to lead to the right opportunities and it’s just going to be people that it’s not going to serve the purpose that it’s intended to serve. You know what I’m saying?

0:09:27.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Yeah. Definite burnout.

0:09:30.8 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So, do you want to add more to that, Leslee?

0:09:35.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Oh, sure. So, I was just going to go into a little bit more on the conscious lines, and the unconscious line 4, the unconscious. So the first line, that you kind of had already mentioned, but it’s the lower trigram. So it’s about seeking foundations and stability. But being that it’s on the person, it’s more on the personal perspective with that foundation. And the first line investigator is the type of person that constantly seeks the solid foundation of knowledge before they feel secure and confident. And they’re the type of person to go down like rabbit holes when they come across new information or any topic that they’re interested in. And this is kind of what makes ’em the natural teachers. And they’re able to share their wealth of knowledge with others. But then they have this uncertainty that makes ’em feel uncomfortable, uncomfortable. So that’s a kind of what gives them that power and the drive to seek all the answers. And with the first line investigators also, they enjoy long hours of introspection and find strength in establishing themselves as authorities. So this gives them a sense of control.

0:10:43.3 Leslee Wegleitner: So however they need to be aware, but they do need to be aware of like the trap of constantly feeling like they don’t know enough and stop themselves from actually sharing. So this is where their discernment will come in to really let them know if it’s their fear of inadequacy that’s holding them back or just something that they’re not supposed to learn the foundation on. So with the line 4 and the unconscious which is in the upper trigram, which you had spoken about, it’s about seeking foundations and stability, but it’s more on the externalization, or the influence aspect of that foundation in your network. And so, meaning it’s through relating and in their networks, they’re looking for a foundation and stability. So, this means that the fourth line is more likely to prepare before making changes in life, rather than jumping into things without thinking. And at its highest expression, the fourth line is very kind and friendly and loves to build relationships and networks. They’re very loyal and consistent friends and find their fulfillment and success through meaningful relationships.

0:11:55.8 Leslee Wegleitner: So, however, at the lowest expression, the fourth line can also be overly sensitive and even mean. And they may have gone through experiences in their life where they were friendly and just didn’t get that reciprocated care that they were caring and didn’t get it reciprocated. So as a result they become kind of cold and shut off from others, or kind of what we talked about the burnout thing. So it’s important for the fourth line individuals to find their strategy and authority to make sure that they are in the right environment as you were speaking of, you know, so that they are building within the network, the people that can support them and that they can influence and share with.

0:12:39.8 Lauri Wakefield: Okay. Were you gonna say anything else? ‘Cause I was going to add something to that I didn’t mention before.

0:12:47.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Well, I was just going to… Just with the leadership style.

0:12:50.8 Lauri Wakefield: Okay.

0:12:51.3 Leslee Wegleitner: With the 1-4 which they can be successful in their role. And it’s kind of like two words that their keywords are authority and influencer. So the 1-4 Profile is knowledgeable authority in the field of expertise, and they’re here to externalize and share their knowledge that they’ve gained through their investigations to influence others in their networks, is kind of their leadership style. Yeah, I think I covered. So just kind of it’s all about having the wisdom and humility to know when something is out of their zone of genius or when to step down from leadership and move on to the next chapter, kind of what we talked about earlier. So I think that wraps it for me.

0:13:36.4 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Well, I was going to say something about line 4, okay, so like when you have the line 1 and the line 4 together and the Profile, it makes a difference like in terms of how the 4 shares the information or wants to use the information to influence. Like if you have a line 4 and the Profile that’s not paired with the line 1, it can be kind of like where they don’t necessarily need to know the details. They don’t care about learning something in-depth, basically what they want to do to look the line 4 itself apart from any other line. They just want to know how it can benefit somebody else. Do you know what I’m saying? Like, they don’t necessarily need to know all the details. Does that make sense? But paired with the line 1, it’s kind of interesting, isn’t it? Because the line, that’s what drives the line 1. So when you put those together it brings more depth to that, the line 4.

0:14:30.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:14:30.3 Lauri Wakefield: Sharing what they’re…

0:14:31.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Right, different. Yeah, two different ends of that foundation.

0:14:34.2 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yep.

0:14:36.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Yep. It’s more foundation of influencing and sharing versus the foundation of the actual information that you want to share.

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0:14:46.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So did you want to talk about, you actually know somebody who has a 1-4 Profile? Did you want to talk about her?

0:14:54.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. I have a niece and she’s a projector 1-4 and it’s fascinating ’cause she’s in her 30s now, but like through high school and college and everything, watching her kind of she’s always loved like gardening and plants and just rocks and just different things. And then she kind of turned it into going into like landscape, but she’s highly creative too. So like creating landscape and I’ve just been watching her kind of bounce. She’s had several different jobs with different landscaping companies and finally she’s in the right network with the right people that are allowing her to really express her creative ability and run the actual teams of landscapers and utilizing her gifts completely. And it’s amazing because she really, the last 10 years on the weekends and her days off, she’s going to the nurseries. I mean, she’s just someone that just wants to keep learning and knowing more about plants and pairing of them. And so it’s kind of fun to see that firsthand, like someone that’s really doing the foundational work of learning at all levels. Yeah.

0:16:12.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. I was just going to say, didn’t you say she’s a projector?

0:16:16.6 Leslee Wegleitner: She is, yes.

0:16:17.9 Lauri Wakefield: Okay. So that’s interesting too, because she was actually like she’s recognized for…

0:16:24.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, her skills.

0:16:25.2 Lauri Wakefield: Her wisdom and her skills and her knowledge. So she’s in a position where she’s actually directing other people.

0:16:31.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:16:31.8 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. That’s cool.

0:16:32.3 Leslee Wegleitner: She got a few jobs before this one. And it was pretty much they kept her doing the grunt work, right? She didn’t get to do the creative aspect of it and she just kind of kept looking and searching, and then she finally found kind of a locally owned, small but large family-owned business and they’re just giving her free reign. So they’re happy and she’s happy. [laughter]

0:16:56.3 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:16:57.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. It’s really fun to see.

0:16:58.3 Lauri Wakefield: It sounds like the perfect match, right?

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0:17:00.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Yeah, it’s been fun to watch her.

0:17:03.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So I was going to just list a couple of famous people and obviously they’re people I don’t know, so I can’t speak personally about them, but I can just say that they’re 1-4 Profile. So, okay, Andre Agassi, the tennis player, he’s a 1-4 manifesting generator. Jessica Alba, Albert Einstein and Benjamin Franklin are both 1-4 generators, chart generators, and then Fidel Castro and that’d be interesting to look at his chart. But anyway, Fidel Castro and Vanessa Hudgens are 1-4 projectors. Jerry Seinfeld, and Gloria Steinem she’s older, she’s a political activist and American feminist, they’re 1-4 Manifesters and then someone by the name of Megan Bolton, some of the younger listeners, they might have heard of her. She’s a TikTok star, like she has like 2.3 million followers. Whoa. It’s a lot, huh?

0:18:04.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Wow.

0:18:05.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, she’s a reflector, 1-4 reflector, but yeah, I mean, I’m not like into TikTok really, so she’s not anybody I’ve seen, but I just saw her name pop up. But then I was going to say, now, this is really interesting. So I was just trying to just find some interesting facts about maybe at least one of them. But okay, so Benjamin Franklin, he had a large network of friends and just different people like from different walks of life. He was friendly, I mean, that’s what people said about him was that he was friendly. But then Albert Einstein, he’s a 1-4, so he was actually like shy and I don’t think he had that large of a network from what I read. But isn’t that interesting, that contrast? So he must have had like something else in his chart that was also influencing maybe the way he was, or maybe, I don’t know, maybe he just wasn’t living out there full expression.

0:19:06.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, what he brought forth was influenced, it was the influence.

0:19:09.3 Lauri Wakefield: Oh yeah, definitely. Definitely.

0:19:10.6 Leslee Wegleitner: You know what I mean? So maybe it doesn’t always have to be be through personality means, but through the gift of what your chart says.

0:19:17.3 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, which is true.

0:19:18.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:19:20.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So, and then Jerry Seinfeld, like he wasn’t or he’s not particularly friendly from what I’ve read. Well, yeah, I mean, I don’t know, I don’t know. [laughter] And then Jessica Alba, she’s kind of interesting. I mean, people who are listening might already know that she started a company called The Honest Company and they do, well, I think they do a lot of different products, but like their products are environmentally friendly, safe to use in the home, safe for kids. But that’s kind of interesting. She didn’t really like turn her back on acting, but she is driven by something else right now.

0:20:04.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Right. Well, that’s externalizing.

0:20:06.9 Lauri Wakefield: Oh yeah. Definitely.

0:20:07.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Helpful as an influence. Yeah.

0:20:09.1 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, Did you have anything else that you wanted to add, Leslee?

0:20:16.1 Leslee Wegleitner: No, I think it’s good. Yep.

0:20:20.2 Lauri Wakefield: Okay. So that’s going to wrap things up for this episode. Thanks so much for joining us today. In our next episode in The Roles We’re Here to Play series, we’ll discuss the 2-4 Profile. If you’d like to see the show notes for today’s podcast, you can find them on our website at www.alignandachievebydesign.com. The show notes will be listed under podcasts, episode 28, is that right, Episode 28?

0:20:45.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:20:45.9 Lauri Wakefield: It should be.

0:20:46.4 Leslee Wegleitner: I think it is.

0:20:46.4 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Okay. If you’d like to join us as we continue our exploration into The Roles We’re Here to Play, please be sure to subscribe to our podcast. Thanks again and have a great day.

0:20:56.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Thanks everyone.