0:00:01.2 Lauri Wakefield: Welcome. Thanks for joining us today. I’m Lauri.

0:00:03.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Hi, everyone. I’m Leslee.

0:00:05.0 Lauri Wakefield: So today we’re gonna talk about the Solar Plexus Center. The theme of that Center is emotional awareness. It has to do with feelings, emotions, and sensitivity. So the way we’re gonna do this will be the way that we’ve done the other episodes for the centers. I’m gonna talk about just basic attributes or characteristics of the Center itself. And then I’m gonna talk about the defined Solar Plexus. And then Leslee is going to talk about the undefined Solar Plexus. And then we’ll just kind of share some different things, converse about some things. So the Solar Plexus is about 50% of the population. It may be, I’d say probably anywhere between like maybe 47% and 50% of the population has the Solar Plexus defined. So anybody who has a Solar Plexus defined will automatically have that as their authority type. And for people who are new to human design, everybody has an authority type. And the authority type is basically how you’re designed to make decisions. So having emotional authority, generators, manifesting and pure generators can have emotional authority. Projectors can have emotional authority.

0:01:31.6 Lauri Wakefield: And manifestors can have emotional authority. And then obviously the reflector, which is unique, since they don’t have any defined centers, no reflector would have emotional authority. So it’s kind of hard to talk about the Solar Plexus without talking about authority. Because that’s just how the Center works. It’s basically when you have emotional authority or when you have the Solar Plexus defined, it means that there’s no truth in the now. Which means that basically your emotions, like the way you make decisions is based on your emotions. So there’s a fluctuation there from day to day, sometimes throughout the day of how you look at things. And it is based on your emotions. So that’s just kind of a thing that’s said about it. That there’s no truth in the now. And that you achieve clarity over time. But the emotional wisdom is gained through the weight. So anybody who has the Solar Plexus defined, they need to, I mean, this would really only apply to things that are like the bigger decisions in life. They need to avoid spontaneous decisions. I mean, anything that’s gonna have, like that could impact them in a bigger way. So even when it comes to relationships, people who have it defined are better off taking a relationship slowly and getting to know somebody over time.

0:03:17.9 Lauri Wakefield: But basically with the emotional authority, like I was talking about the feelings, so the feelings are gonna tell you what’s correct and what isn’t. So I guess I’m kind of getting into the defined. And then, Leslee, you can talk about the undefined.

0:03:35.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Okay.

0:03:35.5 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So there are three different types of, they’re called emotional waves. And there are three different types of emotional waves. And they’re based on the channel that define the channel or channels that define the Solar Plexus. And sometimes you can have more than one type. But there are Tribal waves. So they would be for people who have the Solar Plexus defined through a Tribal channel. So the Tribal waves are based on, like the key word for that is need. And there’s a lot of like people who have tribal definition, like they touch people more like when they’re talking to them maybe. But basically with a Tribal wave, there’s like a, they call it ratcheting. The wave ratchets up like over like a period of time. It can be sometimes a couple of days. And then like all of a sudden it just kind of explodes. It’s like somebody letting things build up, like a pressure build up and then they explode from the pressure.

0:04:44.6 Lauri Wakefield: It’s not funny because you have that, Leslee, right?

0:04:46.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

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0:04:47.7 Lauri Wakefield: You have the 37-40. So like, yeah, and like I was gonna say too, like the 59-6, it is considered, well, it is a tribal wave. It’s also called like the source of all waves. But anyway, it’s like with mine, the 59-6, like mine, that particular channel, it’s more of a, like a kind of a like slow, I don’t know if I can call it slow. Like there’s not a lot of like up and down, up and down are big peaks and low valleys. It’s more just kind of even, I guess. But I know like, cause you’ve shared some things with me, you know, Leslee, like where it’s, you experienced that with the tribal wave, right?

0:05:27.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, definitely.

0:05:30.3 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:05:32.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. As you’re processing, there’s like a pressure that’s happening along with it and then the clarity comes and that’s when the eruption.

0:05:40.0 Lauri Wakefield: It’s all over. Yeah. Yeah. When it starts all over, right?

0:05:43.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:05:43.7 Lauri Wakefield: So the Individual waves are the definition that comes through individual, through an Individual Channel Circuitry. And the keyword for individual is passion. There’s passion there and moodiness too. I think it fluctuates more. You know, the ups and downs are probably not as high and low, but they’re more frequent, they change more frequently. And then Collective waves definition is through a Collective channel. The keyword for that is desire. And the waves are about desire and feeling from peaks and valleys that are based on expectations. And then if the expectation isn’t met, there’s a crash with the emotions. So it’s kind of interesting. But that’s why, like I don’t know for myself, and I don’t know if you look at things this way, Leslee, but like for me, I can have something that I, well, you would because it’s emotional definition. But like, you feel this way one day, then the next day you’re like, it’s like you’re looking at the same thing from just a different perspective from where you’re at emotionally. Right.

0:07:08.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Right. Right. And so it can feel quite confusing.

0:07:14.2 Lauri Wakefield: Oh, it is confusing. And the thing that’s weird about it, too, is that like the waves, they’re not like it’s there… It’s like a chemical and biological process that occurs in the body. It has nothing to do with what’s going on around you. I mean, it’s an internal thing.

0:07:34.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:07:34.9 Lauri Wakefield: ‘Cause it like you have some days where you wake up and it’s like, wow, I feel good today. And it’s like there wasn’t like anything that happened yesterday or that day, like when you woke up, that was like, that would explain like why you, or like other days where you feel just kind of down a little bit. And it wasn’t because yesterday was bad or like, you know what I’m saying.

0:07:52.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Yeah.

0:07:53.1 Lauri Wakefield: It’s like you can’t really explain it. It’s just something that you feel within you. So I was gonna talk about a healthy state for people who have the Solar Plexus defined. So people who who in the healthy state, they’re in touch with how they’re feeling. They’re introspective and they you know, they’re just in touch with their feelings. So they don’t manipulate…

0:08:18.4 Lauri Wakefield: They don’t try to manipulate other people. They they honor the fact that they need time to make decisions. They also have like an understanding of how their emotions can affect other people. So they’re… They feel like a responsibility to. You know what I’m saying, like to kind of like maybe not be so expressive with emotions if they know that it can affect other people negatively. Do you find that?

0:08:46.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Yeah. And yeah.

0:08:50.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yes.

0:08:52.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Mm-hmm.

0:08:55.8 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. And then like another thing in the healthy state is that they allow themselves to feel the feelings and they’re comfortable right in the way of knowing that, they’re gonna feel differently about it today than they did yesterday, maybe. And I was thinking, too, about like sometimes when you’re making it, because I think most people do that. They try to make decisions with their mind. It’s just the way the way that we are, the way human beings are. But when you have like emotional authority, like you can have like a list of positive and negative, like, you know, if you make this decision, like the good, you know, like the pros and cons, like the the pros and cons, and you can look at it, but even with that, like you’re going to be because you got to be you have to be guided by your emotions ’cause your emotions are what’s going to tell you what’s right for you.

0:09:45.3 Lauri Wakefield: So you can look at it and even something that looks like, oh, yeah, like that’s a good reason why I should do it. Like the next day you look at me like, yeah, like it looks different. You know what I mean? I feel it’s not even that it looks different, you feel different about it the next day when you look at it or another day when you look at it, the same the same information. So there’s nothing wrong with pros and cons. It’s just that the pros and cons through your mind are not gonna help you make the best decision. It’s gonna be you know, you can look at the facts, but you still need to allow your emotions to make… To use your emotions to make… To guide the decision.

0:10:22.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Right. And just something to point out. Also, it’s in the biology aspect of it, it’s the nervous system. So you get in touch with that body response. So, we know, when you’re angry and your body’s just like shaking, you know, that’s not the best time to make a decision, a big decision, any type of decision. And what I found is when my nervous system is at it’s calmest in which kind of seems like is, you know, why would you be all calm when you’re excited to do something? But when you get in, you know, get an invitation or someone asks you to do something and you have something to respond to, all of a sudden you’re like, wow, that would be good. But your nervous system is completely calm. And that’s when I find like, Okay that that feels right.

0:11:09.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:11:09.8 Leslee Wegleitner: So it’s not really in the up wave, it’s on the down wave. It’s just kind of the ability of the nervous system is just kind of calm.

0:11:15.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Yeah. Because I think a lot of times people have the tendency to jump on it, like, oh, yeah, like buying something, like buying a new car or something, something that’s expensive. And you’re like, you know, like you’re feeling really good that day and oh, yeah, I’m going to buy it. And then like and then you’re like next day, you’re like, what the heck did I just do? Did I really do that? You know, did I really just buy that?

0:11:39.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:11:40.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Yeah. So, like, yeah, that’s what… That’s in the unhealthy state, making impulsive decisions. You know, and then and then in the unhealthy state, people can put emotional pressure on other people and they can also create like emotional chaos in the environment, like in the family or in the home or, the group. They can also like be impulsive about like jumping into or jumping out of relationships. And those are like, what you were talking about, with, not doing it during the calm phase, but doing it like in the higher low end of a wave. Yeah.

0:12:20.5 Lauri Wakefield: So but I think that’s probably about all I have to say about the defined. Leslee, you want to talk about the undefined or the open Solar Plexus?

0:12:30.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:12:31.9 Lauri Wakefield: Okay.

0:12:34.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Sure. So with the open Solar Plexus, the not self theme or the unhealthy would be avoiding confrontation and truth. And the open or the undefined Solar Plexus absorbs and amplifies the emotions present in its environment. So the potential of the deep conditioning is that they become very vulnerable to the needs, moods, feelings of the other people. And it’s critical for the health and well-being of an emotionally undefined to know if the emotions they are feeling or expressing are theirs or not. So another important knowing for the undefined center is to know that if they are that they can protect themselves by just identifying these emotions and where they’re coming from. So they may also recognize that these emotions are out of control, but they to really understand that that’s not something wrong with them and that they’re just designed to amplify these emotions. And so that awareness through that is very helpful. The over-identification of others, emotions may also lead to wrong decisions resulting in the shame and blame.

0:13:47.9 Leslee Wegleitner: And with the undefined Solar Plexus, they just genetically are not designed to handle these really, really strong emotional like the shame and the blame. I mean, it’s, you know, the amplification and the distortion of that is pretty detrimental to them. So it’s it is really kind of crucial that they’re in the right environment and not with people that, you know, like you were saying at that last tidbit of, you know, someone that’s emotionally defined, impinging their emotions onto the other person, like you and all over them. So the Solar Plexus is our developing spirit awareness. In other words, it’s an awareness Center, but the awareness is acquired over time as we understand the understanding of our emotional wave if defined. And that’s as if it’s defined or through the gates, if they’re present in an undefined Center, which is the like a hanging gate. So if the Center is open, undefined, and then they just have a gate hanging off of it, that will kind of give them a flavor when it is turned on through a transit or something, kind of how they engage with that Solar Plexus. So the completely open Solar Plexus differs in that it does not have any way of filtering or connecting to incoming emotional energy.

0:15:09.4 Leslee Wegleitner: So those with a completely open center can be very confused by what they are feeling and don’t know how to interpret it. And they don’t know what to desire and they don’t have their… When to be sensitive or passionate or how to recognize and deal with people’s needs and moods. They often feel something is wrong with them emotionally and because of the intensity and expression of emotions tend to be out of control. And that’s that distortion of the what we will witness, someone that is open, you know, overreacting. So the potential wisdom is to understand the emotional wave without an opinion and just to have the experience and the wave pass through them and just acknowledge the sensations or the emotions, but not to hold on to them. So the not self mind is always a spokesperson for all the undefined centers. But in regards to the Solar Plexus, it might sound or have a monologue of like, I don’t want to go there because I don’t want to deal with that confrontation. Let’s not say that because it might upset the person. Let’s say it in a more soft ways for to avoid a potential confrontation.

0:16:20.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Let’s be really nice and smile a lot. So they like me or there is no point in going there because I’m just gonna… I might be rejected or be disappointed. And then another one might be like, I’m afraid to tell the truth because I don’t want to hurt their feelings. So one thing that I’ve observed with these undefined Solar Plexus and I’ve been like kind of on a hunt to understand this ’cause my partner is completely open and I’m defined. And the… In the human design world, especially in the beginning, you always hear undefined Solar Plexus. They’re not emotional. And that just I was just…

0:17:01.2 Lauri Wakefield: Exactly, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

0:17:05.8 Leslee Wegleitner: So I’m going to have to relabel this. [chuckle]

0:17:05.8 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Yeah. Because I think like you and I were talking about it, it’s I think it has more to do with just like the… I don’t know, like how we were saying, I mean, everybody has emotions, obviously. But when they talk about the Solar Plexus, that’s just like a it doesn’t mean that people who don’t have definition there don’t… It’s just what you just got finished saying that they don’t have emotions. It’s just a different… They experience it in a different way than somebody who has it defined.

0:17:34.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. So. Kind of like how I’ve been relabeling that is, you know, first, the Solar Plexus is an emotional system, so that doesn’t matter if it’s defined or undefined. It is an emotional system, so everyone has and they will experience emotions. The question is, are you broadcasting those emotions consistently at a frequency level that is reliable and trustworthy, which would mean you are a defined Solar Plexus? Or are you not a defined Solar Plexus, meaning you are not broadcasting, but you’re taking in and potentially amplify and distorting the emotions around you? So will you have feelings? Absolutely. I mean, and you have a specific way to bring awareness about your emotions. Yes, with a hanging gate. But if completely opened, it’s a lot more challenging. And those are what I’m witnessing are the very explosive, the ones that are not consciously aware or are not understanding what’s happening is they can be very, very explosive ’cause they’re amplifying. So if someone is angry or whatever, they’re tenfold amplifying that.

0:18:50.4 Lauri Wakefield: Oh, yeah.

0:18:51.2 Leslee Wegleitner: So the emotional system of the undefined Solar Plexus is very much about your connection to the people around you and recognizing if the emotional state of others is safe or if it’s healthy and even safe physically. So to feel safe emotionally, to be able to speak or does it create you to be nervous, feeling or want to hide or to lie? And so lying is a big not self-purpose of the undefined Solar Plexus, because when they’re feeling all these sensations of being overwhelmed and emotions, they lie to get out from under it or they want to hide or they don’t want to feel the intenseness of it. So that’s how they kind of dumb down that as they start spewing lies.

0:19:38.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, they avoid. Yeah.

0:19:40.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. So they avoid the confrontation or the potential confrontation. So they’re trying to smooth everything over. So they kind of feel like they can’t really express themselves. And they have a fear of not being liked or hurting the other or avoid what someone may want from them and so on. So the overall overwhelm creates this bombardment of feelings which creates such confusion for the open Solar Plexus, which continues feeding their amplification and distortion, resulting in reacting in ways to avoid what is happening. So this is kind of the rabbit hole that I’ve been going into and really trying to understand how this all plays out. So I have the sun and earth conscious side forty thirty seven. So my heart Center is connected to the Solar Plexus and my partner is completely open. And when I was hearing those words like they’re not emotional, I’m like, whoa, because he’s very…

0:20:42.4 Lauri Wakefield: Well, he is.

0:20:44.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Very emotional when he gets in a situation of confrontation. It’s explosive. So I’m like, that is not fitting.

0:20:52.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:20:53.8 Leslee Wegleitner: But I’m understanding now how he’s amplifying and distorting.

0:21:01.6 Lauri Wakefield: Exactly.

0:21:02.6 Leslee Wegleitner: And so it’s really… It was really kind of fascinating to kind of sit back and to watch. But my centers don’t get to the throat. So in our relationship, they don’t get to the throat either. And so I get the time to sit and process and to understand and then I can come forward. But what I’m finding is if I am hooked up through a transit like right now, the thirty five, thirty six and I can be fiery and I’m just, you know, get upset and I will see the shutdown with him. I will see him pull back. I will see him avoid everything.

0:21:37.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, like I’m out of here, right?

0:21:40.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Leave the room. And so what you know, right away, I’m like, he doesn’t care. He doesn’t want to hear me. I mean, in my state of mind. But now I’m realizing…

0:21:54.2 Lauri Wakefield: It’s strategy. Yeah.

0:21:56.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, that’s not the truth. Because then some days, sometimes if he leaves or whatever and it didn’t get finished, then I’m sitting there going, I didn’t get to finish my expression. I’m frustrated. He would leave. He’ll come back and maybe it’s two or three days and he’ll kind of say something about that. What just happened in his feeling of it. So it’s like the overwhelm was so much that he does step away, but it didn’t mean that he didn’t care, didn’t want to process it.

0:22:24.5 Leslee Wegleitner: And so what I’ve been realizing is if I gain my clarity around something that I wanna talk to him about and I can do it without the charge, like I can get to the space where I have no charge, I go and I talk to him, we can have a conversation around it and and it’s beautiful.

0:22:43.3 Lauri Wakefield: Yes [0:22:43.4] ____.

0:22:43.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. And so that’s kind of like how that which is not always easy because, you know, sometimes you just want to spew it out and go for it. But now I’m almost feeling like this isn’t the right time. I’m not clear enough. And sometimes then it just goes away from me, too, because it’s like, well, I didn’t really need to even go into that because that would have been a waste of time. You know, it just kind of resolved or it had nothing to do with him and whatever it is. But so I have a little bit more compassion for these people because, wow, that’s got to feel really, really intense.

0:23:19.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. But, you know, even even somebody who has it defined could probably still pick up on that and that emotional energy. I think it’s really challenging, like the channels to the throat. You know what I mean? The in the Solar Plexus. Yeah, ’cause my husband has a 12-22 and I don’t have. But my daughter has the 36-35.

0:23:43.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:23:43.9 Lauri Wakefield: I wouldn’t say…

0:23:44.9 Leslee Wegleitner: And it’s open. You’re on the 12-22. You’re completely open, right?

0:23:47.4 Lauri Wakefield: Yes.

0:23:48.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:23:48.8 Lauri Wakefield: Yes. I think it’s something. Yeah, I think it’s something that came in on one of the one of the transits, one of the returns. Yeah, I’d have to look at my… Isn’t that terrible, I have to look at my chart. Yeah, I think it was the Chiron. It might have come in on the, on my Chiron return.

0:24:05.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Okay.

0:24:06.8 Lauri Wakefield: But yeah, so Andy’s got it and then my daughter, boy, she’s like, oh, like she can get like so far. Well, you’ve got your son has it, too. Doesn’t he? I don’t have it. Yes.

0:24:19.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, they’re both manifestors.

0:24:19.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yes, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it’s pretty explosive. And I know like for me, I have the 59-6. But then I have . . . I guess the 59-6 and then to the 34-20. So I kind of like it goes through the circle and up to the throat. So I mean, I can get like just like words like I just got to get it out. I’m like, what do I do with this? You know, like even like and sometimes it doesn’t have to be like in words, but, Okay, like when I… We were talking a couple of podcasts ago and I said that I had breast cancer.

0:24:49.0 Lauri Wakefield: And not that that’s funny when I was talking about that at all. But when I was talking about the, you know, when I first found out and it was like all this energy inside of me and it’s like I just had this emotional energy, and it was like I just had to get it out. But anyway, what I was going to say is my definition to the throat is not as direct, but it’s still it’s still there, where I have to just get it out, sometimes it can be it can be powerful, and it can be, where other people. . . it’s like they feel like this wind force on them. If you’re not careful with, or just taking into consideration how you’re going to affect them, and just like, maybe trying to hold back.

0:25:30.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Two motors to the throat.

0:25:31.2 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

0:25:33.2 Leslee Wegleitner: So you have the emotional energy and then also the life force energy. So it’s like I’m not quite yet emotions and it’s like I got to move, you know, like, yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

0:25:46.3 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So but yeah. I think the Solar Plexus to the throat is pretty… It can be challenging. That’s the most powerful, expression, I think, from the Solar Plexus.

0:26:00.1 Leslee Wegleitner: And to be… I mean, like our… Manifestor children… to pause that explosion, you know, I mean, to really just stop and pause and think and… He’s 29, so I think he’s starting to get that pause a little bit. But that’s got to be tough, you know?

0:26:22.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Yeah.

0:26:25.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Emotions are tough stuff.

0:26:26.5 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Because it’s a reaction to things. And yeah, I mean, most people aren’t, you know, prepared for it when it happens. So…

0:26:35.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:26:36.5 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So…

0:26:39.4 Leslee Wegleitner: And I think we’re all learning these emotions and what they really mean.

0:26:44.4 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah.

0:26:44.8 Leslee Wegleitner: And not to take it, you know, into the mind and then boy, we can tell stories.

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0:26:53.7 Lauri Wakefield: Right. Exactly. Yeah.

0:26:55.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:26:56.1 Lauri Wakefield: So we’re kind of running into… I mean it’s… we’ve been talking for a while. You’ve already wrapped things up.

0:27:02.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Yeah.

0:27:03.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So I just wanted to mention that for anybody who listens to our podcast on a regular basis, I mentioned something. It was actually in the Throat Center episode, like maybe two episodes ago, three, I guess. Is that right? Yeah. Is that right? Or was it two or three? I don’t know. Whatever.

0:27:21.5 Leslee Wegleitner: I don’t remember.

0:27:23.4 Lauri Wakefield: But anyway, yeah, I mentioned that that I was diagnosed with breast cancer and that it’s early stage breast cancer. So anyway, tomorrow I am going in for surgery. And so, you know, just getting into going through the different phases that I need to go through. But it’s a… I mean, I’m optimistic about things and the doctors are. And so but I just want to… ’cause I haven’t said anything. It’s like I said at that one episode and then I never said anything about it. So I just kinda wanted to mention it again for… If anybody listens to it.

0:27:55.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, for update. Yeah.

0:27:58.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So anyway, we’ll get beyond that and then move to Christmas and then move into some other stuff. But for this episode, it’s going to wrap things up. Thanks so much for joining us today. And our next episode in the 9-Centered Being series, we’re gonna be talking about the Sacral Center. If you’d like to see the show notes for today’s podcast, you can find them on our website at www.alignandachievebydesign.com. The show notes will be listed under Podcasts Episode 22. If you’d like to join us as we continue our exploration into the 9-Centered Being series, please be sure to subscribe to our podcast. Thanks again and have a great day.

0:28:35.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Thanks, everyone.