0:00:01.2 Lauri Wakefield: Welcome. Thanks for joining us today, I’m Lauri.

0:00:03.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Hi everyone, I’m Leslee.

0:00:05.9 Lauri Wakefield: So in this episode, we’re going to talk about the Sacral Center, I’ll give an overview of the center itself, and then Leslee will talk about an open Sacral Center, then I’ll talk about the defined Sacral Center, and then we’ll talk about personal experience with it. So the themes associated with the Sacral Center are reproduction, sexuality and vitality, and life force energy. So approximately 67% to 70% of the population isn’t defined, which makes sense because most people in the world are Generators. So anybody who has the Sacral defined will be either a Manifesting generator or a pure generator. The Sacral Center is designed to operate in response to life and response to things that come to you in life or things that happen in life. And basically that response, that feeling… It’s not even a feeling, well, it’s a gut feeling from the Sacral, it’s not something that you think about, it’s just something that either draws you towards something or moves you away from something. But it basically lets you know whether or not you have the energy for things or whether or not something’s right for you. So when people respond incorrectly, which means that they’re not following their authority, the result can feel like resistance or frustration.

0:01:44.2 Lauri Wakefield: Generators meet with resistance when they try to initiate things, and that’s because of the way that their aura is. The aura for a generator is known as open and enveloping, which means that they’re designed to have things come to them, and then they respond to it, whether it’s right or whether it’s correct for them or not. And when they do try to initiate something, it’s because they’re attempting to reverse the natural energy flow of the Sacral. Leslee, do you want to talk about the open Sacral first?

0:02:20.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Sure. So the Manifestors, Projector, and Reflector types are the ones that are going to have the undefined Sacral, and with the center defined, they do not have this internal gauge that lets them know when enough is enough. And then also included in that is healthy boundaries for themselves. So the undefined Sacral are easily conditioned by those around them with that defined Sacral. And what happens with their amplification of the undefined Sacral is they just take on too much work and take on too much at home. So when they finally do recognize that they are tired, most of the time, they tend to just push through and override their sense of exhaustion, which can jeopardize their health. The problem is that they don’t know how to pull away from the Sacral energy around them and realign with their own personal authority is what happens with Projectors and Manifestors and Reflectors. So the undefined Sacral Center is always vulnerable to the conditioning field because 70% of the world are Generators with that Sacral energy. So most of the time they are present with someone around them. And its sensitivity to the energy levels in the people and places is experienced through like a magnification of those energies.

0:03:48.5 Leslee Wegleitner: And so because they don’t know when it is a correct decision or a correct… Sorry, a correct situation or relationship, if they’re not using their strategy and authority, they struggle with not knowing how long to stay in a situation or which ones to be in. So it’s important for the undefined Sacral to make sure that it is in the correct environment and with the correct people around them. Understanding how they connect to the people around them is a key to maintaining their vitality. So this can be achieved by using the strategy and authority, always going back to that. The undefined Sacral people, they’re just really not designed to continually be running this energy through their bodies. And when they do continue to run it through their bodies, and it’s like a borrowed energy, and then it leads to like an overextending of themselves causing breakdown and exhaustion.

0:04:51.6 Leslee Wegleitner: So the consistent levels of generating energy is really not available for the undefined Sacral, and this energy, it’s either there or not for them. And if they can understand and respect this within themselves, they will take the time to rest. And the rest is so essential for those nonSacral beings, but if they choose to ignore it, a lot of times it leads to like seriously problems as one of the areas that they’ll recognize it within. And this is interesting. Just like they can amplify a defined Sacral’s energy and magnify that, they can also magnify the Sacral’s fatigue, and then they take that on and think it’s their own. So if they are around other Projectors, say, or Manifestors or Reflectors and they’re just having running the energy too long and are fatigued, they can also amplify that. And that’s just another reason, really, it’s important to know who they’re around, and being in the right situations and places. So it’s important for the undefined Sacral to have this bedtime practice, to go to bed before they’re tired. This is because it helps them release all that Sacral energy that they’ve built up for the day and it just helps them then to regulate their sleeping.

0:06:19.6 Leslee Wegleitner: So the undefined Sacral in a healthy state, they will admit that they really don’t want to work, and they love to relax and let others do the hard work. But because of the Sacral Center and all the conditioning, usually what we see is them overworking. And when one can be at peace with this undefined Sacral, they will find that they can be relaxed and have healthy boundaries, and through their authority to really understand when enough is enough. And working in spurts is their best way to do things and with plenty of rest in-between, and the learning to respect their inconsistent energy flow is really important to not overexert of course.

0:07:07.2 Leslee Wegleitner: But if someone has a completely open Sacral, so they do not have a gate at all and it’s completely open, sometimes their energy can appear to be really scattered and all over the place ’cause the only way these people can get reprieve is to finally become so exhausted and overwhelmed that they finally stop, and if they’re not using their strategy and authority or not in tune with what human design is. But the wisdom for these people, the potential wisdom for these people is to really understand this life force energy and when to use it, how to use it and what is available, and the quality for all of humanity and a deep, deep knowing. So some examples of like a mental monologue that may happen for an undefined Sacral working from the not-self. You may hear them saying, “Let’s just keep working,” or, “We really need to get this done,” or need to say “yes” to everything because they might miss out on something. Or, “I can keep going, I’m not tired yet.” Just all those things that are just a push, push, push. So I think that is all I wanted to talk about with the undefined. Do you wanna give some stuff for the defined Sacral?

0:08:24.1 Lauri Wakefield: Sure. So the people who have the Sacral defined, they’re designed to work and to be fulfilled by the work that they do, that’s where they get fulfillment in life. And when Leslee was talking about people who don’t have a defined, like the Projectors, Manifestors, and Reflectors, and they feed off of the energy of the generator, the Sacral is powerful, but that’s why people… They notice in them that they’re like the people who can get things done. So like a Projector would look at a generator and would see that, “Okay, this is a person I can hire to get things done. They’re gonna gonna be busy and they’re gonna get things done.” So they’re also… Well, to be fulfilled by the work that they do, but it has to be something that they enjoy doing, it has to be something that’s right for them because if they’re doing things that aren’t right for them, it’s gonna cause them to… Well, it’s gonna cause frustration but it’s also gonna lead to exhaustion.

0:09:34.5 Lauri Wakefield: One thing I was gonna say, my sister-in-law and I were talking, it was probably over a year ago. And she’s a generator. And I was telling her just about like, okay, so with a generator, when they’re doing what they love, the energy actually will replenish itself so it’s like they can get lost in what they’re doing. And I know this has happened to me and I’m sure it’s happened to you, Leslee, like when you’re doing something and it’s like you look up and it’s like, “Wow, how in the world did two hours just go by?” You know what I mean? Like, “I didn’t even get up to go to the bathroom.”

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0:10:03.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.

0:10:03.8 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, so that’s the way it is when you’re really… When something’s right for you and like you’re really involved in what you’re doing. And like well, I know with myself, and I’ve mentioned this a couple times, I have gate 34, and that’s the busiest gate in the chart. I’m like somebody who… It’s really hard for me to sit and not do anything, so it’s like I’m always doing stuff. Even when I was a little kid, I was like that. But the Sacral Center itself, not just that gate, it’s just a busy center, people who have it defined are busy people. But in order for it to be healthy, it has to be busy doing things that are right for you and things that you enjoy doing, which if they’re right for you, you’re gonna enjoy doing them.

0:10:52.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Or exhaustion can happen too. Right?

0:10:56.0 Lauri Wakefield: Exactly, exactly, and I like I think you and I both being Generators have found out, it’s like you have things in life sometimes that you can’t be that… Sometimes you can’t be that picky about things, it’s like you just have to do things, but the things that you don’t enjoy doing and that aren’t right for you, yeah, it’s just like if you dread it, it’s like you don’t want to do it and it’s like you don’t have the energy to do it. I don’t know, or the energy that you use makes you feel exhausted because… You know what I’m saying. Right?

0:11:27.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, you’re pushing through it just to get it done, and then it takes up 10 times the energy. So it’s not what you really want to be doing.

0:11:39.3 Lauri Wakefield: Right, right, yeah. When I was talking about my sister-in-law she’s like, “Yeah, but then why do I feel so tired all the time?” And I was like, “Well it’s probably because you’re not doing something you enjoy, it’s like you’re pushing through it, basically.” So one of the tendencies or like attributes of somebody who’s operating in a healthy state is that they can be patient and just wait for the right things to come to them instead of trying to push and make things happen. When people are not operating in alignment with or they’re not following their authority basically or they’re not responding, they’re trying to initiate rather than respond, that’s not healthy and in an unhealthy state, it’s because they’re doing things that they don’t enjoy doing. Leslee, we already talked about how it depletes the Sacral and causes frustration.

0:12:44.5 Lauri Wakefield: So I think what we were talking before we got on the call, about how Generators, like they’ll work towards something and then like hit a plateau, and it’s like that plateau like… You know what I’m talking about, Leslee?

0:13:03.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

0:13:05.0 Lauri Wakefield: So that plateau point is like where they’re most at risk for quitting instead of moving forward. You know what I’m saying? So if they stick with it, they can get to the next level. But sometimes, they’re too anxious to move to that next level that they’ll quit instead of continuing to move forward. Right?

0:13:35.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Right. So it is something that they love, but sometimes you know that you still have to have that pause. You go back to the strategy and authority, I guess. If you’re emotional, then you can come back to it regenerated. Just ’cause you have the Sacral doesn’t mean that you can go, go, go, go, there are still those moments to step back.

0:14:01.1 Lauri Wakefield: Right. And sometimes things are going to take as long as they’re going to take, you can’t force things to happen quicker than they’re meant to happen. And that’s part of just allowing instead of trying to make things happen and initiate things, it’s allowing things to evolve.

0:14:21.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Because of their timing.

0:14:23.6 Lauri Wakefield: What’s that?

0:14:25.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Timing is everything.

0:14:26.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, timing, timing definitely is good. Boy, you and I have experienced a lot of that. Haven’t we?

0:14:29.3 Leslee Wegleitner: I know.

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0:14:31.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, it’s like, “Well, I understand that I have to respond, but where the heck is it for me to respond to it?”

0:14:37.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.

0:14:40.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, I was thinking too, okay, so like in my life, I have most of the people… Well, I guess that’s not true, my daughter doesn’t have a defined, but most of the people that I interact with the most like on a daily basis I… Well, I don’t know. Even in my own family, my brothers, like they’re all Generators. So like Jim, your boyfriend, he’s a Projector, so he’s got it open, so that’s kind of… I know you were already talking about like there’d be times like when you guys would be hiking or something and he’ll be like hijacking your energy, like, “I can do this, like I have all this energy,” because he’s borrowing it from you.

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0:15:24.1 Leslee Wegleitner: And that was such a… I was really tired that day, I did not want to do it, so my heart was not into it. And I’m climbing up this mountain and I’m like, “I’m not doing this.” And he’s just getting more and more energetic. And I’m like, “What is happening?” And then all of a sudden I realize, I’m like, “Wait a minute, no, I’m not doing this, and I’m going down the hill.

0:15:46.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, and that he was probably right behind you. Right?

0:15:50.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, but there are so many times that I’ve seen him working like in the yard or something and just taking full charge, and my son too. That’s a Manifestors, he’s always like, “Yeah I can dig those trenches the fastest.” Everybody’s always like, “Wow, you can… ” And I’m like, “Wow, isn’t that interesting?” Because it’s like they really do amplify around them and then they go to town. And my son’s only 29, so he hasn’t felt the kickback of it. But Jim, I’m seeing him really slow down and he doesn’t sleep well at night, he’s definitely…

0:16:27.3 Lauri Wakefield: Catching up, yeah.

0:16:28.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Yep, it’s catching up. And it’s interesting because he’s approaching retirement. He’s been talking retirement for five years, and he just wants to be retired, he just wants to be done. And I’m like, “No, I want to keep going, I want to do this work and I want… ” So I can definitely see the difference between the two types, so.

0:16:48.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, yeah, next step is, we’re going to be talking about the splenic center, which is really interesting because you have that completely open and he’s got it defined, so that’s just a…

0:17:01.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Interesting dynamic.

0:17:03.3 Lauri Wakefield: It really is, yeah, it really is. Yeah, my husband has that circle defined so like we’re on the same page with a lot of stuff. But it’s hard for people who don’t because it’s like they think that when they’re around you, it’s like, boy, they can make and do… Keep up with you and keep going, and you look at them like an hour later and they’re like sitting in a chair, collapsed like, “Oh I’m so tired.”

0:17:38.7 Leslee Wegleitner: I know it’s life force energy but then you got to go, “Well, at some point, that is going to be detrimental to your health because it’s your life-force energy, it’s not just energy, it’s your life force. That’s the foundation of us.” And so yeah, it’s really fascinating to all of us Generators, that we do get things done and we move along but we got to have some compassion that there are certain types that just are not… If you have a Projector child, they’re not here to do all the sports.

0:18:22.0 Lauri Wakefield: Right. Exactly.

0:18:24.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Or get up and go to school and come home and go to sports and then like music lesson or… It’s something to really be aware of.

0:18:33.8 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, and I think too, like even being a generator doesn’t mean that you don’t ever stop, there obviously has to be time everybody needs to rest. Yeah, you can’t just push, push, push. But like I know like with myself, like when I get up in the morning, like my feet hit the floor and it’s like I’m in motion, like I’m in motion throughout the day, like I don’t… It’s really hard for me sometimes to stop and just rest and not do anything. But I’ve gotten better at it over this past year, I’ve had some different things that have forced me into it. And it’s like I’ve learned to honor that on myself that I need to rest for… I need to rest for a little bit, and not even put a time limit on it necessarily, but just allow myself to just rest. And sometimes like I’ll even find myself when I don’t… I can’t just like actually like maybe lay down or whatever, something like that, just put my head down for a couple minutes, and it’ll give me some energy. You know what I’m saying? You ever do that?

0:19:34.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. That might be just wisdom with age. Right?

0:19:38.8 Lauri Wakefield: Probably, probably yeah.

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0:19:41.4 Leslee Wegleitner: When we’re 30, we could just… Like I could make a list and finish that list, and now I’m like, “Oh my gosh, how did I do that?”

0:19:47.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Yeah, it’s funny though because like, I don’t know, like I wouldn’t even know what to do with myself if I didn’t have like stuff to do. Like I’ll be like, I don’t know, like walking through the house for for something and it’s like, “I have all these options like, ‘I can do this, this, or this.” It’s exciting to know that I have like all these things I can do. But it is, it’s energizing to me to have things to do. That’s another thing too, when you’re talking about the nonSacral people being able to go to sleep and winding down. But like with a generator, they have to make sure that they like burn that energy up before they can lay down and actually like fall… They have to be like totally exhausted really sometimes to fall asleep. Like don’t you find that with yourself, like there are times when, I don’t know, like maybe it’s been like not as hard of a day and you lay down and it’s like you toss and turn and then… Like the days that you’re… It’s probably true of anybody, it’s like you’re exhausted and it’s like, “It’s so nice to just fall right to sleep.” But that is true, that they have a lot of energy to burn compared to the other types. Do you have anything else you wanted to add, Leslee, or should we maybe wrap things up?

0:21:09.3 Leslee Wegleitner: No, I think that’s good.

0:21:12.2 Lauri Wakefield: Okay. Thanks so much for joining us today. In our next episode in “The 9-Centered Being” series, we’ll discuss the Splenic Center. If you’d like to see the show notes for today’s podcast, you can find them on our website at www.alignandachievebydesign.com. The show notes will be listed under podcast episode 23. Wow, Leslee, episode 23.

0:21:32.0 Leslee Wegleitner: I know. Wow.

0:21:34.3 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, we’re just plugging right along. Haven’t we?

0:21:36.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Yes.

0:21:39.4 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. So if you’d like to join us as we continue our exploration into “The 9-Centered Being” series, please be sure to subscribe to our podcast. Thanks again, and have a great day.

0:21:46.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Thanks, everyone.