Human Design & Beyond Podcast
EPISODE 15 TRANSCRIPT
Title: Living as a Manifestor Type
0:00:00.8 Lauri Wakefield: Welcome. Thanks for joining us today. I’m Lauri.
0:00:03.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Hi everyone. I’m Leslee.
0:00:06.0 Lauri Wakefield: So today, we’re gonna talk about Manifestors, the Manifestor type and I’m gonna start with talking about strategy and authority and then the different Manifestor types. And then Leslee’s gonna talk about the aura and the… Not self and then the signature, which is peace, and then we’ll just get into experiences in our own lives, dealing with Manifestors. So Manifestors, their main purpose, they’re here to impact others, and there’s a built-in pressure that they have to make things happen, which is the key to fulfilling their purpose. The Manifestor strategy is to inform others about what they’re gonna do. So Manifestors are… They can move into action really quickly once they make a decision about something and it can catch people off guard, which is the reason why they need to inform before taking an action, because sometimes when they move into action, it can disrupt things with other people, it can catch people off guard, it can startle, it can make people angry, so that’s just the way that they’re impacted by the energy, by what the Manifestor is doing or what they just did.
0:01:26.7 Lauri Wakefield: So, they do need to inform before making a decision… After they make the decision, but before they take action, because when they do inform others, they’ll meet with less resistance from them, and it’s the only way that they really have the freedom to naturally manifest. So there are three types of Manifestors. There are ego, splenic and emotional Manifestors. The ego Manifestors need to trust their own voice, so what they say… Without thinking about what they’re gonna say, their voice, what they’re saying is what initiates the action and then splenic… And they… They’re the ones who move the most quickly into action. Splenic Manifestors, they act quickly too, and it’s something like when they feel things instinctively in the moment, they can inform and then initiate, and then emotional Manifestors are the slowest to move into action, if they’re honoring their emotional wave, that’s because they have emotional authority, which means that they’re… Basically, there’s no truth in the moment, it’s truth over time, so if they act without waiting until they reach clarity, they’re acting impulsively and that can negatively impact other people.
0:02:45.4 Lauri Wakefield: So, when they’re not following their strategy and they meet with resistance from other people, it can make them feel restricted or controlled by other people, when other people don’t… [chuckle] Like they’re just impacted in a negative way, like they get angry or they don’t understand like what just happened. So Leslee, do you wanna talk about the energy and the aura of the Manifestor type?
0:03:13.0 Leslee Wegleitner: Sure. So the aura or the nonverbal presence is closed and protective, and what that kind of means is, it’s kind of like they’re self-contained and it’s almost like they’re pushing outward to initiate, through this energy and that’s kind of the impact people feel, but there’s no… That’s just what they’re receiving, but they don’t feel like they can penetrate to the Manifestor. So it feels like a pushback almost feeling, and it’s just… It’s hard for people to completely and fully understand that ’cause it’s a… It gets to be a little confusing when you first feel that resistance that way. But the… They’re really… They’re here to be the initiators, like you were saying, and to get the ball rolling and they’re here to bring new ideas and concepts into the world. So through that and in knowing that, and if they feel like they’re being stifled or not being able to achieve those goals, that’s kind of when the anger steps in. So here are some keys for a Manifestor or to be more at peace.
0:04:38.4 Leslee Wegleitner: So when they are able to get the ball rolling and get things started, they can feel more peaceful, and initiating, and to be able to initiate things and being not blocked in that initiation or kind of pulled back from, or resisted or not listened to, I suppose. And then recognizing, like you were talking about, that impact that you have on others, and through the informing to allow that, going in and not just blasting someone with your idea, but to say, “I really… I’m not trying to step on anybody’s toes here, but I was thinking, what about this?” Just to… ‘Cause people are gonna feel that forceful energy that you have, and…
0:05:32.1 Lauri Wakefield: Yes.
0:05:32.8 Leslee Wegleitner: That gets people to kind of pull back and then shut down and not listen and then you are gonna get angry and then you’re gonna have that whole dialect happening, and you do… You are here to make the first move and to see things and be an innovative, and depending which way you’re configured to be a Manifestor, but it is all about the new ideas and foreseeing things. And that may not always… Being that you’re initiating, and you’re first at seeing something, you kind of have to then wait for sometimes for people to catch up, which can kind of create this little bit of anger like, “Why can’t you guys keep up and think about this and [chuckle] why are you not seeing this?” [chuckle]
0:06:24.6 Lauri Wakefield: Right.
0:06:27.2 Leslee Wegleitner: But yeah, I guess, I don’t know is there anything else that you would like to add to that?
0:06:34.6 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah one thing I was gonna say that I should have said in the beginning is that about nine to 10% of the population are Manifestors. So that means like out of every 10 people you meet one one is likely to be a Manifestor. So they’re not that prevalent compared… Especially compared to generators and then projectors, like we said, last time they, they make up about like maybe 20%, 18-22% of the population. But yeah, like the energy from a Manifestor you feel it. You definitely feel it. It’s like a… Like I was trying to think of a way to describe it. It’s like pushing through wind or something, and it’s like if you’re standing on the outside of it. It’s like, you feel like the wind, it’s like you feel the movement, it’s like you feel the energy, and it is powerful.
0:07:25.9 Lauri Wakefield: And then you and I were talking too before we got on the call about how like, you and I are both manifesting generators, so that we’re not Manifestors but like the closest because we have manifesting channels defined. So there’s that Manifestor energy but we’re no… We’re generators but just like that’s the closest that we can get to feeling like what a Manifestor might feel like as far as putting things into action I mean, ours is in response. It’s not like with a Manifestor it’s internal like they don’t need anything on the outside to bring them into action. They don’t need to respond to anything. They don’t need to be invited. They don’t need to… Yeah. Anything like that they, they do it themselves. I mean it’s with… It’s within themselves that they initiate. So I don’t know. Did you wanna add something? Go ahead.
0:08:26.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Well, one way to put it as manifesting generators, I’ve heard people say we’re generators with manifesting potentials.
0:08:34.4 Lauri Wakefield: Yes, yes.
0:08:35.2 Leslee Wegleitner: And then you’re, in regards to the… They can just do things, they… But there’s always that element of weight according to their authority. So if like they’re emotional, they have to wait for emotional clarity.
0:08:51.1 Lauri Wakefield: Right.
0:08:51.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Not just public, they have to wait for that, and the initial. So they do have a little bit of a wait but you’re right. I mean, they don’t have to… They can always initiate, you know?
0:09:04.0 Lauri Wakefield: Right.
0:09:04.5 Leslee Wegleitner: And they may have to wait to see the correct thing that they just initiated, but they definitely can always initiate.
0:09:10.0 Lauri Wakefield: Put into action quickly, yes.
0:09:12.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Yeah.
0:09:14.2 Lauri Wakefield: So, yeah.
0:09:15.2 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Important.
0:09:16.5 Lauri Wakefield: Sorry. [laughter]
0:09:16.8 Leslee Wegleitner: No, that’s okay.
0:09:18.9 Lauri Wakefield: I keep interrupting you. Go ahead.
0:09:21.1 Leslee Wegleitner: No. Well, and then with… Do you wanna talk a little bit about having them in our lives and what we’ve noticed and…
0:09:30.3 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, we can. I was just… I was gonna say something though, just like from…
0:09:33.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Okay.
0:09:33.3 Lauri Wakefield: Like how I experience it manifested energy. So it would be like either emotional or circle, you and I are both emotional, so we’ve gotta wait for the clarity. And then circle, is its a gut response, you know, like we’re… They can initiate even… Not initiate but they can put things into action more quickly than somebody who has emotional authority for a manifesting generator. Who’s not a Manifestor, right? [laughter]
0:09:57.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.
0:09:58.4 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah so we don’t wanna confuse the two. But like, I know with myself, like when I put something in action ’cause I can feel that energy it’s like, I just wanna move. I don’t want anything in my way. And it’s not like in a, I don’t even know what I would… How I would describe it. Like it’s just, I’m just trying to get something done. It’s like I’m trying to do it. It’s like, I don’t want distractions. I wanna just do it. And so the things on the outside, I’m not paying attention to I’m just in motion and I’m doing what I need to do. Isn’t that the way you experience it too?
0:10:30.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, yeah. And that part of when you’re in flow and not being interrupted.
0:10:37.3 Lauri Wakefield: Yes, ’cause the interruption can be annoying, yeah.
0:10:40.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Right, right. Where I think I’m sure it’s a lot more intense for them.
0:10:47.2 Lauri Wakefield: Yes.
0:10:48.7 Leslee Wegleitner: And I can see…
0:10:49.4 Lauri Wakefield: And frequent, yeah.
0:10:51.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah, yeah. And just how they… The ones that I have in my life, I can see how they’re definitely the anger that shoots through. [laughter] You do it.
0:11:02.7 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Yeah. ‘Cause you and I both have… Well, you’ve got, your son is a 35, 36 and then my daughter’s a 35, 36 Manifestor.
0:11:11.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.
0:11:12.1 Lauri Wakefield: Well, those are… Yeah, those are… You can talk a little bit about how it is with your son if you want.
0:11:18.4 Leslee Wegleitner: Sure. Well, so he has the emotional, so he needs to have the clarity before he can take the action. But what I’ve noticed it’s been kind of fun to play with, and he’s dating someone that’s a generator, is they really don’t like to be asked questions. And so I was kind of thinking about that because they don’t like to ask questions and they don’t like to ask for help. So they don’t wanna be guided. They don’t wanna be asked and they don’t wanna be told what to do. So I was thinking about that and I thought “Okay, so where does the questions come in with that?” And I think if they’re asked a question they feel like there’s something they have to do. It’s perceived to them as “Now I have to do something”. They just asked me this question “Now I have to… ” even beyond like, I don’t know, like it was… It’s just, it’s fascinating ’cause it’s like, “Okay, well, that makes sense”. So then, how can you converse with them outside of asking questions? Now being Manifesting generators or generators, we’re all about response. So we’re all about the questions. [laughter]
0:12:33.9 Lauri Wakefield: Right, right.
0:12:35.1 Leslee Wegleitner: So it’s kind of a tricky thing but even asking him over for dinner whatever it’s like, “Hey, we’re… Do you wanna come over Wednesday night for dinner?” It’s more like, “Hey, Wednesday night I’m making dinner and we’re all gonna be there. Hope to see you”, and just leave it at that. And it seems to be working better, but he’s… Yeah. How are you perceiving that, or…
0:13:04.3 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, what you said, that’s interesting. I think well, because Manifestors, they don’t need anything on the outside to have them take action. So they’re I don’t know if I would say self-directed but kind of I guess to where it’s… Like it goes against what’s natural for them to be asked things maybe.
0:13:30.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Right. Well, and I heard Ross say, even to inform is outside of their comfort form.
0:13:37.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yes.
0:13:38.1 Leslee Wegleitner: ‘Cause that’s not natural either for them.
0:13:40.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. No.
0:13:41.2 Leslee Wegleitner: But it’s so important for them to do, which I… We talked about earlier too. Like I noticed being a manifesting generator, like if I just walk out of the room and don’t, when I was managing and I would just leave and go back to my office was a whole different feel when I came back out, than when I would say, “Hey guys, I gotta go do a couple things in the office. I’ll be right back”.
0:14:04.8 Lauri Wakefield: Right.
0:14:05.6 Leslee Wegleitner: And informed everybody. And for Tyler, that’s my son, it’s… I’m noticing that within his relationship, it’s a big deal. She gets kind of like out of balance, like, “What just happened? Where did he go?”
0:14:23.9 Lauri Wakefield: Right. Right.
0:14:24.6 Leslee Wegleitner: “What’s going on? I thought we were doing this”. [laughter]
0:14:28.1 Lauri Wakefield: Right. Yeah. My daughter’s like that. And it’s crazy. Before I understood that she’s a Manifestor and that’s just the way she operates. That’s the way her energy works. It’s like a… I don’t know if I would call it a whirlwind, but it’s just like, you just feel that energy and it’s like all of a sudden it’s like, they change direction, or… And it’s like, what the heck just happened.
0:14:52.3 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.
0:14:53.1 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. It’s like, okay, let me figure out what just happened. And, it can be very… Unless they let you know what they’re gonna do, it can be very disruptive sometimes.
0:15:08.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Right. And I know we’re both, talking about the emotional Manifestor too, so that explosive energy’s got a lot of passion and power behind it. So I do have a friend that is a will Manifestor or the ego straight to the throat and it’s a little bit different with her. She definitely can… She could go walk in and initiate a pay raise and boom, she would get it. It’s amazing. I was like, “Oh my gosh”.
0:15:44.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah, yeah.
0:15:47.6 Leslee Wegleitner: But she didn’t have… Well, she tells me stories at work too, and her like going, “Well, the chart wasn’t done right” and blah, blah, blah. And I’m like, “Oh, if you would just not be so like forceful in… ” Like, but it’s still coming… It doesn’t seem… It’s impactful. The will, I think is still very, what do I wanna say, like, you can feel that boom hit. Yeah.
0:16:12.4 Lauri Wakefield: Anything to the throat. Yeah. Any more to the informing.
0:16:13.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I just… It’s different than the emotional, I can’t really put words on it, but there’s a different sense to it.
0:16:25.0 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. The thing that’s interesting too, with the ego manifested, authority, the ego Manifestor, is that they’ve got at least three open centers beneath the will center. They’ve got the solar plexus, the circle and the spleen are open. So there’s… I don’t know. I think, like conditioning from those centers sometimes can affect the way that they… I don’t know. It’s like before they put something into action, that’s why they need to speak it and without thinking about it, and then that’s like them informing and then doing, does that make sense?
0:17:04.1 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.
0:17:04.7 Lauri Wakefield: To where… Yeah. I don’t know. I probably kinda went off track from what you were talking about.
0:17:11.9 Leslee Wegleitner: No.
0:17:12.1 Lauri Wakefield: But some of that can be playing in to it, do you think, maybe, with her?
0:17:15.3 Leslee Wegleitner: I do. I do. And I think with the conditioning of innovators, you know…
0:17:22.5 Lauri Wakefield: Innovator [0:17:22.5] ____.
0:17:24.1 Leslee Wegleitner: I’m sorry. Manifestor.
0:17:25.1 Lauri Wakefield: No, no, no, no, no, no. It’s okay. It’s okay. Just explain what you mean by that.
0:17:33.8 Leslee Wegleitner: [laughter] They’re believed to be one of the most broken because, with raising them, it’s all about freedom for them too. And I noticed this just intuitively with my son. And they can just, as young children pretty much be okay. I mean, they can walk out the door and they’ll find their way back home. I mean, it’s just… And to, but if you try to control them in the way of, squashing that freedom, it… I can see where as they become adults how, especially like with women, that sense of not being able to do it, like conditioning them to second guess that they can just do these things. And I’m so grateful that I did know about this, 20 years ago when my son was quite young, because… And it’s all about freedom for him. I mean, he talks about it. It’s like, “I just want freedom. I just… It’s not about the money, I want my freedom”, and has actually created now something that gives him a lot of freedom and a lot of money. So [laughter], he’s done both.
0:18:47.6 Lauri Wakefield: He’s got it figured out. Right.
0:18:49.0 Leslee Wegleitner: He’s got it figured out, work a couple hours day and make a lot of money. But so, it’s really fascinating. I can see how you could squash that really easily as a parent. Because you kinda hover, you’re trying to protect your children, but they really do need that kind of that open space and, yeah. To do things and not to be like second guessing that they’re gonna fall down or get hurt, or…
0:19:17.5 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. It’s interesting. Yeah. ’cause it’s a… I mean, parents are well intentioned and it’s like we’re just trying to be parents. Right. And yeah, it’s… With each type, there’s a different approach, I think, when you understand how their energy works and, to keep them from growing up in stifling, what comes natural to them.
0:19:41.6 Leslee Wegleitner: Right.
0:19:42.8 Lauri Wakefield: Right. Yeah.
0:19:44.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Exactly. Yeah. And it’s… Yeah. I guess one of the themes of someone that is being, kind of stifled in this is, especially, women can just come across… They just wanna be nice and caring in the end because they’ve been, when they’ve kind of initiated something or spoke out and then they got that pushback, then they’ve kinda learned to just shut that all down and just be the nice and the caring person and not be… It’s a forceful energy.
0:20:19.3 Lauri Wakefield: Oh, it is. It definitely is.
0:20:21.8 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. But, there’s way… Without stifling it, they can still be who they are meant to be.
0:20:28.6 Lauri Wakefield: Right, right.
0:20:29.7 Leslee Wegleitner: It’s just kinda little tweaks here and there and informing is…
0:20:33.5 Lauri Wakefield: It’s a big one.
0:20:34.7 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.
0:20:35.0 Lauri Wakefield: Definitely a big one. Yeah. ‘Cause some people can prepare, [laughter] prepare for the energy that’s about to hit. Right.
0:20:41.5 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah. And as a parent, that is one thing that’s, you can right out of the gates with a Manifestor to get them to inform, just make it kind of a natural thing. Like, if they just walk out the door and go to somebody’s house, and I tell you, [chuckle] because Tyler would do that.
0:21:00.9 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Then you start panicking as a parent. Right. Where did my kid go?
0:21:05.1 Leslee Wegleitner: [laughter] “Hi. Just kinda tell me what you’re doing”.
0:21:07.4 Lauri Wakefield: Yeah. Yeah. So what do you think about ready to…
0:21:13.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Yeah.
0:21:14.2 Lauri Wakefield: Wrap things up? Okay. So thanks so much for joining us today. In our next episode, we’re gonna be talking about reflectors and the living, as your design type. If you’d like to see the show notes for today’s podcast, you can find them on our website at www.alignandachievebydesign.com. The show notes will be listed under podcast episode 14. If you’d like to join us, as we finish up our exploration into the four human design types, please be sure to subscribe to our podcast. Thanks again, and have a great day.
0:21:49.9 Leslee Wegleitner: Thanks everyone.
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